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Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by ramesh31 on Saturday July 01, 2023 @11:40PM (#36558004)
>but how can there be nothing of value?

All independent image hosts suffer the same fate. There's simply no money in it. The moment you try to monetize people will move to a new free service, and the cycle starts over.

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by luuurker on Sunday July 02, 2023 @12:51AM (#36558331)
There's some money on it, but not enough to get rich. For example, Imgur was profitable in 2014, but they had to raise money and expand...

Maybe a service like this should start with ads and paid plans (that unlock restrictions), keep their running costs low, and never stop being an image hosting site?

Too many start without ads, get users and some investment and then spend it all on expensive AWS hosting/CDN bills and employees that are hired to create a social media platform... and then they stop being an image hosting website, fill the site with ads, focus too much on growth, and so on. I don't blame them for taking a big pay check, but I don't think the entrepreneur type works well for image hosting.

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by ikekkdcjkfke on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:47AM (#36558944)
Just sell peoples IP adresses and browser fingerprints and what they were looking at in text format
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by goolz on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:59AM (#36559009)
I hope this is sarcasm. Please do not do this. The world is crappy enough as is, no need for more spam and more privacy loss to keep an image site afloat.
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by toyg on Sunday July 02, 2023 @04:28AM (#36559495)
It's cute that you think this doesn't happen already.

The problem is that it's just not that profitable. What is an advertiser going to do, with the knowledge that internet people like to look at cats?

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by permo-w on Sunday July 02, 2023 @06:50AM (#36560224)
sell them cat food?
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by goolz on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @09:16AM (#36600018)
When did I ever say that? Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote.

I was stating we have enough of it as is. No need to be snarky when you couldn’t be bothered to read. Of course it exists, what kind of troglodyte do you take me as, sir?!

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by hsjqllzlfkf on Sunday July 02, 2023 @04:35AM (#36559522)
> Imgur was profitable in 2014, but they had to raise money and expand...

Why did they "have" to raise money and expand? Maybe this was sarcasm and I missed it in which case ignore.

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by ilyt on Sunday July 02, 2023 @05:48AM (#36559930)
Coz owners wanted more money
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by InvisibleUp on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:35AM (#36562427)
Imgur is backed by venture capital. A stable, sustainable business isn’t enough; they have to make gobs of cash to repay their investors.
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by hsjqllzlfkf on Sunday July 02, 2023 @03:12PM (#36564652)
I understand the need to expand given that you have investors. I was asking why they needed to get investors if they were profitable.
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by z500 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @03:19PM (#36564714)
Sure, it is now, but why did it have to be? I don't remember them hurting for many or anything before the VC money came in, but nobody ever accused me of being too astute.
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by luuurker on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @02:20AM (#36582889)
Yes, it's a sarcastic "have".
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by hsjqllzlfkf on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @06:06AM (#36584554)
Got it. I would've written it like:

They were profitable but then they haaaaad to go and raise money.

:-)

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by dehrmann on Sunday July 02, 2023 @01:53AM (#36558626)
I'm a little surprised because in the era of CDNs, you'd think image distribution would be much easier and cheaper.
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by pinkcan on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:06AM (#36558712)
as long as there's any cost and no one else willing to support we'll have these services disappearing
Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by autoexec on Sunday July 02, 2023 @02:20AM (#36558789)
that's only true because they all try to monetize by making their service obnoxious or even hostile to users.

Even if they were to insist on making their money by pushing ads, doing it in a way that doesn't degrade the service would go a long way toward keeping users around.

When I think about the massive amount of data image hosts collect, I have to imagine there should be ways to make money from that information without any impact on the user's experience uploading or viewing photos.

As far as I can tell the biggest problem image hosts have is dealing with our insane copyright laws. Users just want to share information, while companies want to act as gatekeepers and toll collectors which often leaves image hosts caught in the middle. They hold massive data sets of our collective culture and interests, but have a lot of limits on what can be done with it. Most of their content was uploaded to them in violation of copyright laws to start with.

Re:After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will... by lotsofpulp on Sunday July 02, 2023 @09:41AM (#36561416)
Don’t businesses that host also have to pay for moderators that deal with removing media of abuse and other illegal content? That cannot be cheap once you are popular.