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Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by netsharc on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:07PM (#36545081)
Hey ChatGPT, please generate a Firefox Corp-style apology for this snafu... Be sure to use some bullshit blah blah for our original aim of wanting to enhance user experience and listening to the users' feedback, and some more bullshit blah blah about doing better in the future.
Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by Ygg2 on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:38PM (#36546233)
Who owns MDN? I thought it was disbanded by Mozilla few years ago.
Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by Terry2006 on Saturday July 01, 2023 @04:12AM (#36547911)
The team was disbanded a few years ago, which led to the creation of Open Web Docs (I think it is charity, the website: https://openwebdocs.org/ ) where several former editors are still maintaining MDN content. It looks like Mozilla has rebuilt a team of developers though and is trying to extract money from MDN (ads, AI, …), though they don't contribute significantly to the content nowaday.
Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by rapnie on Saturday July 01, 2023 @04:16AM (#36547946)
It is now maintained by this club, I think: https://openwebdocs.org
Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by msum on Sunday July 02, 2023 @07:45PM (#36567019)
FWIW, OWD writes open source technical content and is not responsible for the design of MDN nor the blog, ads, or login and membership features of the site. That is done by Mozilla.

The OWD team writes technical documentation on APIs, HTML, and JS. OWD also works on information architecture and browser compatibility data. They contribute mainly to https://github.com/mdn/content/ and https://github.com/mdn/browser-compat-data/.

Mozilla, not OWD, is responsible for Yari, the platform behind MDN Web Docs (https://github.com/mdn/yari). The MDN blog, ads, AI and design, the MDN infrastructure, are fully owned and controlled by Mozilla.

I know some folks who work on this content and TBH it’s the folks we’d want working on this content.

Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by Terry2006 on Monday July 03, 2023 @01:11AM (#36569165)
No, these people write only docs. Mozilla seems to have rebuilt a dev team, after they disbanded the MDN team a couple of years ago, with the goal to extract money from the community work.
Re:MDN can now automatically lie to people seeking technical... by promiseofbeans on Sunday July 02, 2023 @03:23AM (#36559123)
ChatGPT: I apologize for any inconvenience caused by the recent addition of the "ai assistant" feature on the MDN website. We understand that this feature has generated misleading information, leading to confusion and frustration among users. As an AI model, I acknowledge that the generated text may contain convincing falsehoods or inaccuracies.

At Mozilla, our goal has always been to provide accurate and reliable technical information to the developer community. Unfortunately, in this instance, the introduction of the AI feature did not align with that objective. We deeply regret the impact it has had on users seeking reliable information.

Our intention with the AI assistant was to enhance the user experience by providing additional context and explanations. We wanted to create a trusted companion that would assist developers in understanding complex concepts more easily. However, we recognize that this implementation fell short of expectations and introduced more problems than solutions.

We value the feedback and concerns raised by the community, and we take them seriously. Going forward, we will reassess our approach to ensure that any new features or enhancements undergo thorough review and testing. We will prioritize human oversight, peer-review, and fact-checking to ensure the accuracy and reliability of the information presented on MDN.

Our commitment to providing a reliable resource for developers remains unwavering, and we apologize for any loss of trust this incident may have caused. We appreciate your patience as we work to rectify the situation and improve the overall user experience on MDN.

Thank you for your continued support, and we assure you that we will learn from this mistake and strive to do better in the future.

Sincerely, [Your Name] Mozilla Community Manager

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