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Re:Why do men stupefy themselves? Leo Tolstoy on why we drin... by hbn on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:52PM (#36527266)
I'm the complete opposite, I can barely put a sentence together when I'm hungover.

To be fair I can barely put a sentence together when sober either.

Re:Why do men stupefy themselves? Leo Tolstoy on why we drin... by layer8 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:57PM (#36527324)
What’s your current state of soberness?
Re:Why do men stupefy themselves? Leo Tolstoy on why we drin... by hbn on Thursday June 29, 2023 @06:04PM (#36527420)
If you mean at the current moment in time, I'm sober. And it's easier when I'm typing and can edit my sentences as I go. But in day-to-day, trying to explain things or convey my thoughts coherently, I'm pretty bad. I think it's gotten worse in the past few years with how isolated I've been starting with the pandemic.
Re:Why do men stupefy themselves? Leo Tolstoy on why we drin... by com2kid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @06:25PM (#36527660)
> If you mean at the current moment in time, I'm sober. And it's easier when I'm typing and can edit my sentences as I go. But in day-to-day, trying to explain things or convey my thoughts coherently, I'm pretty bad. I think it's gotten worse in the past few years with how isolated I've been starting with the pandemic.

Talking is a skill like any other.

So, a comparison.

You know how you can picture a car in your head but you can't make draw a car unless you've spent time practicing as an artist? That is because connecting our mental representation of "a car" and making our hand draw a car is a skill that requires a lot of training. This is why artists practice drawing still lives, looking at an orange and copying it down to paper with a pencil trains your brain on how to translate the thing that is visually inside your head to what your hand needs to do to re-create it.

Well, the same for mental dialogue. Going from "idea in head" to "words coming out of mouth" is a skill that takes practice.

There are ways to practice this! Toastmasters is a famous group whose goal is improving this skill, but there are many other routes. I had good luck with table top RPGs, I spent years playing a character who is supposed to be charismatic, and accordingly I had lots of chances to practices being outgoing!

We are good at the things we practice doing!

Re:Why do men stupefy themselves? Leo Tolstoy on why we drin... by The_Colonel on Friday June 30, 2023 @04:34AM (#36532082)
Same. A mild buzz doesn't make me significantly stupider, and in some ways increases my social competency. But hungover it's a different story and especially verbal communication is a struggle. These side effects are the main reason I've largely gave up on alcohol.

This is exacerbated by the fact that in my 30s, the amount of alcohol needed for a hangover is quite low.