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Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by earthboundkid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:12PM (#36522426)
Because we did harm to African Americans and Native Americans as groups, so the remedy has to be to them as groups.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by 0xcafefood on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:29PM (#36522696)
Why did you harm these groups? What are you doing to fix what you have done?
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by charlieyu1 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:09PM (#36523328)
So what had Asian Americans done to deserve being treated worse?
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by goatlover on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:14PM (#36523410)
Who's we and how do you delineate those groups?
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by earthboundkid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @04:31PM (#36526286)
The United States is a legal entity. It's the one responsible for the harms, and it's the one responsible for the reparations.

Or we could just dissolve the country every 4 years and start over from scratch if you prefer. I don't see how that could go wrong. :-)

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by orangepurple on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:37PM (#36527094)
Please identify the slave owners and punish them, not the rest of us. Most people in American didn't own slaves. Hell even most white people that weren't Jewish didn't own slaves. The reputation was earned: http://heyjackass.com/
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by hersko on Thursday June 29, 2023 @07:31PM (#36528274)
> that weren't Jewish

What does this mean

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by CaptainNegative on Thursday June 29, 2023 @11:02PM (#36530034)
There's a long-standing effort by Nation of Islam (the American hate group that is only nominally Islamic) to rewrite the history of slavery in the US as largely orchestrated by and for Jews. Nonetheless the actual numbers show that they "possessed far fewer slaves than non-Jews in every British territory in North America and the Caribbean" [1] though the reason why is still not well understood.

[1] https://www.jstor.org/stable/2674370

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by orangepurple on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:04AM (#36536171)
Hate groups pointing out facts to further their own agendas doesn't make the facts any less factual. There is no more reason to bring the Nation of Islam into this discussion than there is to bring in the persecution of the Palestinian people.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by goatlover on Thursday June 29, 2023 @08:25PM (#36528800)
The US fought a civil war with the entities owning slaves. But reparations to slaves and their descendants is a separate issue from affirmative action.
Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by zo1 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @01:49PM (#36524016)
There is no way to untangle any of that from the past in any fair way. We are just making more victims that future generations will look down on us for.

I want to leave a fair world to my children, not one filled with hate and systemic racial discrimination.

Re:Affirmative action at US colleges has been banned by earthboundkid on Thursday June 29, 2023 @04:34PM (#36526323)
> There is no way to untangle any of that from the past in any fair way.

Agreed. At some point you do have to shrug and say we tried our best and move on with a moral bankruptcy. But we're not really close to that point yet. Bankruptcy comes after you've exhausted extraordinary measures. I would say realistically you need maybe 100 or 150 years of positive effort before you shrug and give up, and we're barely even at 50 yet.