Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-job, no-worries permits

Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by babyshake on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @01:40PM (#36509880)

And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by TheCapn on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:25PM (#36510492)

>sexual fertility

You think our government respects people taking time to rear offspring? Of course not! They're not contributing their labour to our economy while being parents so we've structured the incentives to start families in such a way that they're driven back to work ASAP. Strictly speaking: having children is bad for our labour force and should be avoided.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by Loughla on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:31PM (#36510568)

This is the paradox of the child in modern society.

In terms of across the board consumption, there is nothing as productive as a modern child. Clothes, consumable goods, travel sports, recreations, hobbies, and diversions all lead straight to the consumption that is so vital to our economy.

And yet, with sicknesses, evening activities, and other problems, there is nothing that disrupts an individual worker's productivity as a child.

I'm not sure I am smart enough to come up with an equation, but, it's in there somewhere to tell us whether a child is a net positive or negative influence on our Economy than the other.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by bhouston on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:57PM (#36511746)

> there is nothing that disrupts an individual worker's productivity as a child.

I have two kids and it isn't that bad at all. Very small loss of productivity for me except when I took parental leave for 3 months. I have grandparents that live nearby and they can help with sickness and other babysitting though.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by steve_adams_86 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:08PM (#36513945)

I have a feeling a lot of people don’t have that kind of support network. I certainly don’t. If someone’s taking care of my kids, it’s me (or I’m paying them).

Just so happened that my family had to move for work, health, etc. I love raising my kids so it’s fine. It has been the equivalent of drop kicking my career against a brick wall occasionally, if I’m being honest.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by WeylandYutani on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @10:08PM (#36515486)

My country quite literally needs every able bodied man or woman in the workforce. People with university degrees sitting at home raising kids is almost treason at this point considering it was the government who paid for their education.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by steve_adams_86 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @12:22AM (#36516264)

Can I ask which country you’re in? That’s an interesting consideration when education is publicly funded like that. Where I am, it’s a bit of a both… Public money is a major factor up until post secondary school, then it’s part of the picture but there’s also substantial private tuition — especially for international students. I’m not sure anyone considers a duty to their country really, despite how much public money makes their education possible.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by jdkee on Friday June 30, 2023 @12:24AM (#36530480)

Does your country face a demographic cliff due to a less than replacement fertility rate?

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by hgsgm on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @10:43PM (#36515714)

That's only true under the orthodox economics misconception that consumption (destruction) equals value ("broken windows" theory of value).

The best economics can only tell you how to convert value into different units. It can't tell you what value is.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by asadm on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:26PM (#36511354)

It's this line of short-term thinking that has brought us to population collapse we are just starting to see.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by wesapien on Thursday June 29, 2023 @10:10AM (#36520567)

The Common (un)Wealth is on a death spiral. CANZUK, muahs.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by Terr_ on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:33PM (#36512195)

First the US has to solve the Mineshaft gap, doctor!

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by rnk on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:39PM (#36512982)

No fighting in the war room!

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by f38zf5vdt on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:41PM (#36512291)

For all those taking this seriously, the parent comment was sarcastic and this comment is almost a direct quote from Dr. Strangelove about how to repopulate the Earth after a nuclear apocalypse.

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Re:Canada plans brain drain of H-1B visa holders, with no-jo... by Terr_ on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:21PM (#36513449)

This is one of those situation where I wish there was a good loan-word like "schadenfreude": The dilemma of choosing whether to explain a joke/reference for those who aren't getting it, versus playing along and extending it.

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