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Re:Meta developer tools: Working at scale by typon on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @09:49AM (#36506454)
It's interesting to hear the contrast between Meta and my experience talking with ex-Googlers who complain that open-source or industry standard infrastructure is far inferior to what they were used to at Google. Why such a big chasm between the internal tool quality at Meta and Google?
Re:Meta developer tools: Working at scale by kevinventullo on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @10:01AM (#36506614)
FWIW I am a Meta-to-Google transplant and I feel the opposite way. There’s a lot of internal tooling and functionality I miss dearly. Most of all, Workplace.
Re:Meta developer tools: Working at scale by mattnewton on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:40AM (#36508086)
FWIW I did the opposite leap and felt the opposite way- I really disliked workplace’s stream of seemingly randomly sorted information compared to e-mail lists I could filter, control, and search better. I really dislike workplace as a store of institutional knowledge. The chat was definitely way better than hangouts chat though.

I also felt like a lot of the developer tools looked nicer than their google counterparts at the surface but had major reliability problems under the hood where you would need to do a lot of turn it off and on again style operations.

Re:Meta developer tools: Working at scale by theptip on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @12:37PM (#36508941)
I do really like Workplace, I think it provides a much better information architecture than docs/slack alone.

It’s possible to run a really disciplined Slack where updates go in a ready-only channel, and people broadcast their work appropriately - but it’s really hard. Most people default to non-discoverable DMs and then stream-of-thought in public channels, which are both bad for discovery in their own way.

Posts end up being a bit more considered than a slack message, but still lightweight, and more discoverable than docs.

Shame Google nixed their “Google plus for workplace”, I would love to see this workflow used more widely.

Re:Meta developer tools: Working at scale by loeg on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:16AM (#36507706)
I think GP's opinion is fairly contrarian. I would say the in-house tools at Meta are substantially better than typical open source or commercial tools used at smaller companies.