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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by pizza234 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:25AM (#36503438)
> In Italy there's a bunch of things called "pizza" which are not round flat bread.

True, although the canonical/widespread pizza is the round/flat one.

I've never heard of "Pizza di Pasqua" and "Pizza sbattuta" in Italy (I don't doubt they exist, but they must be very uncommon).

Pizza in teglia is common, at least in certain parts of Italy; I believe it's generally sold in bakeries rather than in pizzerias (restaurants).

Pizza alla pala is not so common in Italy, at least in restaurants (not that I remember). In other countries is very common in takeaways.

There's also a type of pizza that is round but thick, and with lower-quality toppings. I can't find any reference to it; it's somewhat widespread over Italy, but considered a "lesser pizza" :)

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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by asimpletune on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:07AM (#36503698)
I just want to add this because i think it’s interesting, but the word pasqua (Easter) actually comes from Passover. Also Passover in Italian is Pasqua ebraica.
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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by ChuckNorris89 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @08:57AM (#36505741)
>Passover in Italian is Pasqua ebraica

Funny, in Romanian, Pasqua(spelled Pasca) is a sweet bread Easter dish.

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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by OJFord on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:56AM (#36504004)
Pizza inferiore that you allude to without reference - this is the one often often found entombed in a cardboard box?
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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by quickthrower2 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:07AM (#36504807)
And delivered in 30 minutes or your next one is free?
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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by detourdog on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @07:07AM (#36504809)
In Berkshire County Massachusetts
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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by __void on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:11AM (#36504103)
> There's also a type of pizza that is round but thick,

do you mean 'pizzetta'?

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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by pizza234 on Thursday June 29, 2023 @05:09AM (#36518108)
This is an example: https://imgur.com/a/PQlxEXc (not sure why Imgur tags it as mature).

I've found this type of pizza both in the north and in the south. The overall quality is consideraly lower, starting from the cheese, which is not mozzarella (I believe they use provola, which is cheaper).

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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by __void on Friday June 30, 2023 @04:55AM (#36532198)
oh god... that dough looks more like frozen pizza, apart from in some tourist traps I have never seen it served seriously in my area
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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by dumpsterdiver on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:39AM (#36504275)
> True, although the canonical/widespread pizza is the round/flat one.

I agree, but I would also posit that the modern canonical definition of a pizza has less historical significance than the fact that when people pounded dough in the past it happened to turn out kind of round.

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Re:A Proto-Pizza Emerges from a Fresco on a Pompeii Wall by pvdoom on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @08:06AM (#36505224)
If you look at historical sources, what is called pizza, in i.e. Scampi's "Opera Nova" is more of a pie, that may be open or closed, sweet or savoury, and may not even have flour dough, but say almond flour
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