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Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by vladvasiliu on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:50AM (#36503200)
> 8. Carry a water bottle (copper ideal).

Why is copper better than stainless steel?

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by darkwizard42 on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:57AM (#36503241)
Copper is known to help kill more bacteria and thus helps additionally purify the water (1)

1: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067274/

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by morsch on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:12AM (#36503346)
Won't it also kill you if you put something acidic in the bottle? Like water with a spritz of lemon? That's why copper pots have a lining, anyway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdigris
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by voxelghost on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:58AM (#36503635)
Yup, and although correct about coppers antimicrobial effect it only kills bacteria on contact. So I suspect a majority of any bacterial contamination in the water, will never come in close enough contact with the copper walls for it to have any real effect.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by c00lio on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @05:34AM (#36504245)
Water bottles, if not cleaned properly with a soap and brush on the inside, will be coated with a bacterial "lawn". Copper prevents that. Lots of bacteria need such a lawn to propagate, only some can multiply without a substrate. So even if the "free" water part won't be desinfected, copper has an overall positive effect on the bacterial content of your drinking water.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by thorncorona on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:14AM (#36504488)
As someone who washes my (steel) water bottle at most 1x a week, and drinks ~10-14L of water a week, I've never gotten sick from drinking out of my bottle before.

You can usually tell if the water in your bottle is going bad / filled w bacteria..

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by kelipso on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @10:26AM (#36506978)
Same, except I wash it like once in a blue moon lol.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by kitkat_new on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @01:30PM (#36509707)
I have to at least rub the area where I drink otherwise it will smell within less 2 days
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by kelipso on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:24PM (#36510468)
I don't usually touch the bottle with my mouth, so I guess that allows for a bit more leeway.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by voxelghost on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:59AM (#36504774)
Do you hesitate to drink water from a normal glass or cup as well?
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by c00lio on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @08:44AM (#36505578)
No. I was just explaining why copper is better in that regard, not that I would personally care that much. I do prefer stainless steel, because it is more robust, dishwasher-safe and cheaper.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by FalconSensei on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @11:57AM (#36508353)
normal glass goes into dishwasher after every use. Those water bottles are more of a hassle to clean properly
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by NovaDudely on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:14AM (#36503359)
That actually makes a lot of sense, I did not know that. Thank you!
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by pvaldes on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:29AM (#36503828)
Everybody uses glass for water even if it does not kill bacteria. Shouldn't be the main factor to choose one over other. People must filter their drinking water and remove the pathogens before filling their drinking bottle in any case.

If this is not possible, take in mind that your immune system can take care about bacteria. In 99% of the cases after a learning period, local bacteria will stop being a problem. Unless your live in areas with very unsafe water sources or particularly dangerous organisms this shouldn't be a main factor in the choice.

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by saiya-jin on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:22AM (#36503416)
> Is it safe to drink water from copper bottle everyday?

> If you have been drinking water that has been constantly stored in copper bottle or vessel, chances are high that you might be at the risk of copper toxicity. It can cause severe nausea, dizziness, abdominal pain and can result in liver and kidney failure.

No thank you. I get the struggle to not use plastics, I try to avoid it myself too (especially buying water in plastic bottles in shops is something I never do), but alternatives are subpar, either very heavy, fragile and overall impractical for outdoor sports (ie glass), or some other issues. What happened to stainless steel? Heavy but at least should be inert and nearly indestructible, no? I mean those without some crap BPA lining inside, like thermos but single walled.

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by morsch on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:34AM (#36503502)
Nothing happened to stainless steel bottles, they're available. About twice as heavy as a plastic bottle, when empty that is. Full it's more like 900g vs 750g.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by Glawen on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @04:45AM (#36503937)
I stopped using plastic bottle because it tends to accumulate biological matter or whatever, and a smell / bad taste builds up over time. I switched to stainless steel and couldn't be happier. Decathlon stores in europe sell very good stainless steel bottler for different size.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by civilitty on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:54AM (#36503226)
Copper has anti-microbial properties and acts as a spermicide in a pinch.
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by dustypotato on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @02:58AM (#36503247)
Wait, what use do you see for it as a spermicide? How would you use it?
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by Maxion on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:02AM (#36503274)
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by dustypotato on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @06:27AM (#36504575)
Doesn't seem like a water bottle though :|
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by civilitty on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:23AM (#36503424)
Figuring it out is half the fun! ;-)

(For some hints, see the sketches of the Dwarven Kama Sutra found in JRR Token’s estate)

Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by irrational on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:00AM (#36503260)
You don’t use copper condoms?
Re:How Plastics Are Poisoning Us by bombolo on Wednesday June 28, 2023 @03:07AM (#36503306)
It's not better, since it's toxic.