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Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by mauvehaus on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @07:58AM (#36491629)
Yes, but like the best simple recipes, the skill lies in picking the right two and using them in the right proportion.

Gins and vermouths both vary a lot in flavor, and a martini is a drink that's all about the subtleties of how they interact. If you get an olive or three in your martini, there's also the element of the olive brine. That could be an incidental amount from the surface of the olives, or an amount added beyond that, at which point the drink is properly called a dirty martini.

A martini is the perfect test of a bartender's skill, just as a plain cheese pizza is the perfect test of a pizza maker's skill.

Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by constantly on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @08:17AM (#36491779)
Agree with cheese pizza, and will add plain cheeseburger. But with a martini one normally specifies the ingredients (or at least the base) as the orderer, otherwise it’s just well alcohol. So I would normally say something like “vodka martini” and they would give me whatever is on well with whatever the vermouth is, and I guess olive juice if I specified. Otherwise I’d order a “X Brand vodka/gin martini” and they’d do the same but with the specified brand. So this isn’t really helpful to determine anything about the bartender. Unless you’re telling them to surprise you, but then you’re likely just testing if their preferences match yours.

Furthermore, the recipe specifies the proportions. Whatever ounces or whatever ingredient. I would argue that them deciding the proportions outside of the recipe is bad.

I think your romanticizing martinis too much and reading too much into them. Martinis are good btw, just saying they’re the most basic drink.

Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by 7znwjshsus on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @08:10AM (#36491712)
You can only do so much if your ingredients and oven is bad. I don't think you can judge the cook in those cases, only the restaurant as a whole.
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by wrycoder on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @08:15AM (#36491750)
If the ingredients and the oven are bad, a good cook fixes that or leaves immediately.
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by bee_rider on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @09:34AM (#36492492)
Not everyone has the luxury to die on the hill of quality, and we’re not talking about safety-critical changes to the drinks.
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by CyanBird on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @01:54PM (#36496367)
Well then said cook/bartender will be judged by that
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by kieckerjan on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @08:08AM (#36491700)
Cheers, mate.
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by genghisjahn on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:28AM (#36493343)
Your last line reminds me of this scene regarding a cheese burger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bjDrg5q7ZY&ab_channel=Movie...
Re:The Best Place to Drink Is the Emptiest Bar in the City by ballenf on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @10:47AM (#36493655)
Vanilla ice cream. Can't hide behind overpowering flavor distractions.