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Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by crossroadsguy on Sunday June 25, 2023 @08:33PM (#36474216)
> Time Machine works fine until it doesn't. And it won't tell you that a backup is broken until you try to restore from it. The errors are going to be cryptic. There is going to be no support and the forums are not going to help.

and

> Time Machine uses the "fuck you user" approach

apply to every piece of software or service out there by Apple. Every single one!

iCloud? The only answer you’re going to get “No, your data is getting synced”. “Why don’t you enable and disable it”. Or “restart it”. My favourite is when Apple Support asks you to reinstall the reset the iOS or reinstall macOS if something as tiny as some sync problem with such confidence and matter of fact tone that you are forced to debate whether you are talking to some kafkasque and sadist bot.

This is the Apple playbook. Naming and shaming them on social media does work. Emails don’t get answered. Your customer request gets stonewalled. Sometimes you maybe it’s Apple paying you to use their products and the other way round.

An ex manager was thought to be crazy by us freshers when he would tell the moment he gets a Mac, for personal or work uses, the first thing he does is install Linux on that. We used to think he was some GNU/FOSS nut. He would smile and used to say - give it time, you’ll understand.

And I understand now how helplessly hostile the Apple ecosystem feels. You literally feel like a hostage — you can use it with such stonewalling limits!

At this point I don’t think it’s anything other than self sabotage if anyone still says

- but I also use Time Machine - it works, or is “good enough”

- or relies on something like iCloud for something like “data backup and integrity” in anyway.

Can’t wait for the day when file access is easier on iOS (of course aft explicit permissions - which is the case even today actually) etc, or Android sucks less - in this glorious duopoly.

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by vGPU on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:29PM (#36475031)
Agreed. Have a 14 MBP. Nice hardware. MacOS makes me want to scream and tear my hair out.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by hparadiz on Monday June 26, 2023 @12:54AM (#36475861)
Is the rubber around your screen starting to peel and degrade? I have a 2014 and the rubber just comes off if I rub it with a finger.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by happymellon on Monday June 26, 2023 @01:39AM (#36476087)
2019 and the stuck on piece of plastic under the screen saying MacBook Pro is bubbling and peeling from the heat of the machine.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by __d on Monday June 26, 2023 @01:15AM (#36475979)
2014 MacBook Pro, and the rubber around my screen is also failing.

But, honestly, it's 9 years old and still going strong. Which is exceptional for a laptop used basically every day for those 9 years.

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by hparadiz on Monday June 26, 2023 @05:03AM (#36477400)
Yea I mean I'm not complaining. Was just curious. Don't see a lot of 2014s still being used. I wish I could send it to Apple for a refurb lol.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by EricE on Monday June 26, 2023 @11:34AM (#36481090)
I sent my 2005 MacBook Pro in to get the GPU repaired and it came back with a new case - top and bottom - no charge! I was pleasantly surprised.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by __d on Monday June 26, 2023 @06:49PM (#36486910)
You quite likely can? Especially if you go to a non-Apple, but Apple-authorized repair shop -- they'll have access to the parts, and will likely be willing to do it.

It might be an integrated component though? ie. you might need to pay for a new screen, not just the rubber?

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by prmoustache on Monday June 26, 2023 @08:07AM (#36478643)
I don't know, I have an 11y old HP elitebook from 2011 and nothing aesthetic is failing. It has however seen a battery replacement and some memory and ssd upgrades. I think battery and hard drive should be the only thing we should expect to replace in a 10y lifespan.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by __d on Monday June 26, 2023 @07:02PM (#36487012)
Agreed. And in this case, the rubber failure is almost entirely aesthetic: it does keep the screen away from the lower chassis/keyboard when closed, but you don't need _all_ of it to do that.

In my case, there are a few spots where the rubber's shape is no longer smooth: small bits have worn away and/or broken off. There's a few small bits on the top, and the lower right-hand side feels quite rough.

But it won't stop me continuing to use this laptop as my main personal machine for a little while longer (until OCLP can't get me security patches any longer).

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by argsnd on Monday June 26, 2023 @05:21AM (#36477517)
Pretty sure they mean a 14" MacBook Pro, not a 2014 one
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by vGPU on Monday June 26, 2023 @05:23PM (#36486056)
No, it's an M1 14in not a 2014.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by ksec on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:28PM (#36475415)
I mean Apple was never perfect. But I could at least understand that, in the old days they were nearly bankrupt, they had comparatively speaking extremely limited resources. And they had to focus on certain things and neglect others. iPhone arguably took all their resources from 2005-2015. But somewhere along that line they had way more resources than they need or know how to spend on it. Some of the lacking attention and details no longer makes any sense. And not only have to not gone to fix it. Their quality has gone downhill.

It is sad. You would expect a bigger Apple to be a better Apple. But almost like everything in life they are counter intuitive.

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by klik99 on Monday June 26, 2023 @07:35AM (#36478364)
Around 2007 I remember complementing apple ux to a long time multiple eras of job graybeard apple employee and he sighed with frustration and said "apple really cares about user experience when they're not doing well, but as soon as the money comes in it goes out the window"

So far it's tracked pretty well

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by climb_stealth on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:29PM (#36475428)
Hah, I think I hit a nerve there. I hear you. Overall I'm actually super happy with my Macbook. Luckily for the most part no one is forced to use the Apple eco system.

CCC for system backups. Tresorit for backing individual directories with a bit more privacy and flexibility than Dropbox.

I don't think it's self-sabotage to keep using apple software, but more a case of people not having been in the situation where things go wrong and there is nothing you can do :)

Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by chmars on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:29AM (#36476410)
How do you use Tresorit for backup?
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by climb_stealth on Monday June 26, 2023 @10:42PM (#36488316)
Personally I just use it for my documents and similar folders. It's not intended for full system backups. It's pretty much like Dropbox, but it's end-to-end encrypted so personally I feel better about trusting it with my documents.
Re:ThinMachine – A $25 Thin Client macOS Time Machine Appliance by uselpa on Monday June 26, 2023 @07:01AM (#36478131)
I agree on iCloud, which behaves in a very erratic and intransparent way. Don’t rely on it. I use Nextcloud instead and it works much better. One software that syncs extremely well with iCloud is Obsidian, for reasons unknown (to me).