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Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by seattle_spring on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:03PM (#36473081)
Err… what? So people with abusive or absent dads should just forgive and love them?
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by lmm on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:32PM (#36473344)
Love them, no. Make their peace with what happened, accept that they can't change it, and move on, yes.
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by noname2021 on Monday June 26, 2023 @01:18AM (#36475993)
This is a lot easier said than done. I say this from first hand experience. I've been screwed a few times so far and generally managed to make my piece with most of those experiences except the abuse and apathy from my parents
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by lmm on Monday June 26, 2023 @02:58AM (#36476583)
Right. Just as some people who were abused by their parents will never be 100% physically well as adults, some will never be 100% mentally well. (And of course in neither case is that something they should be blamed for).
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by moron4hire on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:27PM (#36473291)
That's not at all what GP said. They said "accept". For example, that could mean accepting that your father was a piece of shit and sloughing him off, out of your life. At some point, one has to stop letting the damages of the past continue to damage ones self.
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by turrican on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:35PM (#36473368)
I would agree with you. The most important person I hurt when holding a grudge is myself. Much better to do my best to forgive, maybe forget, and move on with my life (with or without that person).
Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by lisasays on Sunday June 25, 2023 @06:33PM (#36473347)
They said "accept".

They said "accept him", as a direct object.

Not "accept the fact that he had negative qualities", which is something entirely different.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by em-bee on Sunday June 25, 2023 @09:56PM (#36474814)
there is a sibling comment here, that is marked dead that i'd like to reply to, so i'll quote it in full:

Forgiveness is all about detachment. Forgiveness is not only good for the forgiven, it is good for you, too. If you let hate fester in you, it will incline you toward wrath. Hate the sin and not the sinner. Love and pray for your enemy.

i'd even go as far as saying that forgiveness is primarily good for you or me. the accused may not even need to know that they have been forgiven.

Now, that doesn't mean you should just act as if nothing happened. Actions have consequences, and those consequences should be determined by the gravity of the actions.

"Abuse" is a vague term and often people mean very different things by it. Some people call their father throwing a fit of anger or cussing their kids out about something every now and then "abuse". And then other people use the same term to refer to really diabolical stuff, like child-buggering. With the less serious and more understandable stuff, you should also take into consideration what your father was going through at the time, and how that might have influenced his actions and his judgment. When I got older and began to understand what my father has had to deal with (including me lol), it really made me not care at all about some of the rough-ups we had. So I mean whether or not you should want to patch up the relationship with your father should really be determined by the character of the abuse, the extent of it, the circumstances, et cetera. This should also determine what exactly "patching up" that relationship means - like what kinds of boundaries you set, and so on.

i pretty much feel the same when i look at my experience growing up.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by Natsu on Sunday June 25, 2023 @11:56PM (#36475591)
Dad murdered mom when I was 15, so I have some experience here. I haven't seen him since I testified against him.

But... I don't let that define my life. I miss mom, and I always will, but I made peace with it and have moved on. You can't just spend your life sobbing into a pillow or grinding my teeth in rage, at some point you have to go back to just living again.

Re:Ignoring Boys' Emotional Needs Fuels Public Health Risks by core-utility on Monday June 26, 2023 @08:17AM (#36478727)
Forgiveness is often more about the forgiver than the forgiven.