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Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by BrandoElFollito on Saturday June 24, 2023 @01:48PM (#36460929)
This is a good point.

I look at 900k$ and think wow from the perspective of my very well paid job in France.

Getting 900k$ a year would bring great things to me and probably make me retire earlier. This will not be life-changing though.

And then I think about people who earn 5% of what I do and for them multiplying their income by two would probably be truly life changing for them.

And then these 900k$ do not look that wow anymore.

Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by kpw94 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @01:54PM (#36460978)
For people not living there but curious about trying it out: What's a reasonable range for "very well paid job in France"? Is it all cash or is there equity?
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by BrandoElFollito on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:28PM (#36461368)
For a entry-level developer in a large French company you would aim a 50k€.

But this is just the bare salary - you will have to take off about 20-30% for various taxes. But then you get free healthcare and education, and retirement.

Some companies will have a bonus ("intéressement / participation") which can be an extra 10 to 20% once a year.

You would typically have a straight salary, no equity or something like that.

When you look at the most senior positions, this is about 130k€.

But it really depends on the city, on the industry etc. Generally speaking your salary is not that big, bt you have extra advantages (such as the social committee, a company-funded organization that will reimburse part of your vacation costs, give gifts at Christmas, ...)

Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by benhurmarcel on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:50PM (#36462109)
> For a entry-level developer in a large French company you would aim a 50k€.

> When you look at the most senior positions, this is about 130k€.

You're being generous here. A new grad in France in engineering or development gets more often in the 40k€. The most senior positions in most companies plateau around 90k€.

In some companies in Paris it's higher, but that's the exception.

Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by BrandoElFollito on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:35AM (#36468570)
Yes, it really depends on the company and place. Mine is in the Paris region and this are the levels I hire at.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by benhurmarcel on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:52PM (#36462131)
At 62k€ before taxes you're in the 10% top earners in the country. That's about 41-47k€ after taxes depending on your situation.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by dumbaccount123 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:00PM (#36461041)
Are you here to just brag? Also the dollar sign goes on the other side.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by BrandoElFollito on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:23PM (#36461298)
Brag about what? Please take a moment to read my comment with understanding.

And the dollar sign goes on the side I put it: nine hundred thousand dollars. The fact that you want to write $900k is just an idea specific to the finance world (such as using parentheses for negative numbers).

Do you usually write m4, in7 or lb9?

Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by rafram on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:01PM (#36461687)
Dollar sign goes before the number, cent sign goes after, other units go after: $7, 7¢, 7 lbs. You can’t pretend convention doesn’t exist just because it’s weird! That’s why it’s convention and not common sense.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by abwizz on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:33PM (#36461955)
imho most countries on earth use the format: [scalar] [si-prefix] [unit]
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by pkd on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:15PM (#36463959)
Currencies are formatted differently in different locales, even foreign ones.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by marvin on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:48PM (#36462522)
I'd call "may retire, or work on whatever you want for the rest of your life, after a few years of saving" life-changing.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by BrandoElFollito on Sunday June 25, 2023 @10:37AM (#36468596)
Twice my salary will not allow me to retire much earlier and sustain my level of living. Maybe ay 1M€/year that would be doable.
Re:$900k Median Package for Engineers at OpenAI by marvin on Tuesday June 27, 2023 @07:04PM (#36499935)
If you don't increase your standard of living, it will. (Or the other caveats of course; assuming you're not already close to retirement, impending economic catastrophe or whatever).

Doubling salary post-tax will at the very least put you at a 50% savings rate, and that yields a time from zero to financial independence of 16.5 years. Assuming historically-similar stock market returns and a safe withdrawal rate of 4%. This relationship does not depend on absolute numbers beyond those stated above, only savings rate.

Most likely you'd not be starting from zero and having a positive savings rate already. Whether you'd be comfortable doing this is a different question. Many would never be, and hence never completely comfortable retiring.