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Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by lloydatkinson on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:12AM (#36459364)
So let me get this straight, for the (relatively) low cost of only 9 billion they could return materials from Mars?

That’s a steal. The entire US Department of Defence spends 800 billion.

The fact some of that can’t be shared for a one off project is deeply frustrating.

Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by jvanderbot on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:41AM (#36459615)
Wait until you see how much it costs to build and run a single offshore drilling platform or prospecting well in the ocean.

Then think how many there are.

Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by guraf on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:18PM (#36459976)
An offshore drilling platform costs about 250M to build and deploy.

It is not funded by tax payers and it starts paying for itself after a few years (they extract $250,000 worth of oil per day on average, up to double that).

I don't understand your comparison?

Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by ornornor on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:46PM (#36460271)
Maybe parent was hinting at the astronomical numbers and the relative futility of spending this amount on this vs that.
Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by jvanderbot on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:56PM (#36460396)
I was saying that in the scale of human enterprises, the cost of returning soil from another planet is a rounding error. 9 billion over a decade vs the operating cost of O&G industry as an example, isn't even close. Soil from Mars vs oil from earth.

Both are an amazing scientific and technological accomplishment, but one is also historic.

Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by Fezzik on Saturday June 24, 2023 @01:21PM (#36460689)
Not directly funded by tax payers… the exceptional tax breaks that oil companies have received from our shat government are astronomical.
Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by jvanderbot on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:45AM (#36459655)
Also that's 9 billion over the course of ... A decade of development? Maybe half a decade? DoD spends that per year.
Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by JKCalhoun on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:49AM (#36459685)
Never mind too how big a savings this is from sending a manned mission to Mars (to also return samples).
Re:NASA’s Mars Sample Return has a new price tag–and it’s co... by theossuary on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:28PM (#36460085)
Interestingly we spend much more on military. Most people only quote the discretionary spend as the military budget ($751b in 2022), but if you look at the mandatory spend there's another ~ $250b in 2022. Things like survivor's benefits, VA, and foreign base leases/costs end up in the mandatory budget, which has the effect of both making US social programs seem more expensive, and our military complex cheaper.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58890

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58889