Russia Slides into Civil War

Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by gsatic on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:25AM (#36458096)

Just wondering why announce a coup attempt sitting so far away from the capital? It feels like a suicide run...unless he has supporters in Moscow. But even then it seems a bit nuts launching it from so far away from the power center.

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Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by belter on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:29AM (#36458125)

The rats are leaving...

"Plane used by Belarusian top officials and Lukashenko family lands in Türkiye" - https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/24/7408310/

"Reportedly, Medvedev was evacuated from Moscow region together with his family and assistants." - https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/16725552688973987...

"More and more private jets with no declared destination or Turkey as destination appear over Moscow." - https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672523999425994752

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Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by fortani on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:35AM (#36458176)

Even the live address by Putin [1] seems to have been behind a greenscreen or edited screen and if you listen closely, there seems to be an audible din that seems to be from the whirling sounds from a jet plane.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZB3FOqBUxA

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Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by fortani on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:32AM (#36458151)

Supposedly this operation has been planned for 2 months:

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1672541087020339200

Maybe he was relying on his allies eg: General Surovikin. Nevertheless, he is correct to sense that many in the Russian Army are unhappy with how the war is panning out. But he is either miscalculating or misreading the situation, or see this as an existential crisis for himself and Wagner [1]

[1] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offens...

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Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by tim333 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:15AM (#36459386)

Interesting. In his TV interview of a month or so ago Budanov, head of Ukr intelligence was saying the war would end shortly through changes in Russia but was cryptic as to what. Maybe he knew this was in the works.

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Re:Russia Slides into Civil War by sorokod on Saturday June 24, 2023 @10:40AM (#36459062)

Seems to be doing OK so far. There is no "the power center", there are multiple power centers and he is one of them.

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