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Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by cmdli on Friday June 23, 2023 @11:28PM (#36455221)
I feel the same way as the above comment. If you were an actual administrator in charge of fining people for violating the rule, almost none of these examples should give you pause. You wouldn't be trying to give a ticket to planes flying overhead, for example. With these examples, there really isn't much disagreement on whether action should be taken, so any discussion of whether a rule is technically violated is moot.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by raldi on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:10AM (#36455465)
If you didn't think a bicycle violated the rule, what about an e-bike? Or a fully battery-powered bike that doesn't require pedaling?
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by MontyCarloHall on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:23AM (#36455551)
Those are exactly the questions the quiz should have asked, not clearly absurd examples that are unambiguously not vehicles in the park, like the ISS passing over the park.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by bowsamic on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:11AM (#36456047)
Yeah that’s what I expected. Not a bunch of silly questions, but actually ambiguous ones
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by growse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:47AM (#36456216)
> Yeah that’s what I expected. Not a bunch of silly questions, but actually ambiguous ones

The fact that there's no clear consensus on most of the questions means they are ambiguous, no?

Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by bowsamic on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:07AM (#36456604)
There is a clear consensus on most questions from serious/average IQ responders. The lack of consensus is from people who are trolling or are low IQ
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by whelp_24 on Saturday June 24, 2023 @06:48AM (#36457462)
This is a mix of ad hominem and no true Scotsman. And the iss had a clear purpose, if space is excluded, and civics are included, how high counts as "in the park"?
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by bowsamic on Saturday June 24, 2023 @06:58AM (#36457506)
I literally can’t even parse your English. Can you try again please?
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by growse on Saturday June 24, 2023 @07:38AM (#36457809)
Wow, it's been a while since I saw a genuine "my opinion is objectively right" in the wild.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by TaylorAlexander on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:28AM (#36455575)
I love my fully battery powered ebike but I am well aware they are prohibited pretty much everywhere. When filling out the form I figured a bike is not a vehicle because they tend to be explicitly spelled out, but ebikes are more often prohibited (though in my area, not enforced), and my overpowered ebike is illegal everywhere, but I am respectful of others and there is no enforcement.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by raldi on Saturday June 24, 2023 @01:22AM (#36455817)
What about a bike that can provide thrust without pedaling, but you're not making use of that feature in the park?
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by TaylorAlexander on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:11AM (#36456048)
Generally it is too difficult to enforce whether someone was or was not using a feature so in my area (SF Bay Area) they would just outlaw anything with a capability to do something undesired, regardless of whether it was being used. The thinking would go that if they catch someone they can point to the feature and say "you're breaking the law". No need to prove the feature was in use. Plus if you let people in with a bike with some undesired feature, people are going to end up using it and that would be what such a law would be trying to avoid.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by 9dev on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:46AM (#36456209)
You made the assumption the start screen explicitly asked users to not make, that is apply their local laws to the question.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by TaylorAlexander on Saturday June 24, 2023 @03:16AM (#36456373)
I don't see it as applying my local laws. Everywhere I have ever seen that I can recall will explicitly spell out bicycles if they are prohibited. I have never seen a prohibition on "vehicles" that included bicycles. So I applied my understanding of the word vehicle. Of course I have not seen everywhere in the world, and the whole point of the survey is that people have to apply their own perspectives in order to even make a judgement, and this is the problem of content moderation.
Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by Symbiote on Saturday June 24, 2023 @04:35AM (#36456748)
The prohibition signs of the Vienna Convention are "No vehicles" (excludes cycles) and "No motor vehicles".

That also fits the English definition of a vehicle, which includes a bicycle.

Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by chii on Saturday June 24, 2023 @12:58AM (#36455710)
> You wouldn't be trying to give a ticket to planes flying overhead

except you have just applied an assumption (which is often true) that may not be true depending on circumstances - that the planes were excluded because it couldn't have caused any negative effect.

For example, if the park had been https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese#Isolation_and_unco... , and the intention was to keep the indigenous peoples isolated.

But this isn't a part of the rule, and it is an interpretation of the rule by the administrator. A different administrator might interpret planes that fly higher than audible altitude would be OK, while another one might consider a visual detection altitude to be a violation. And another might consider no altitude to be permissible (because if they crashed right there, they'd be falling into the park).

Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by hunter2_ on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:27AM (#36456135)
> they'd be falling into the park

That phrasing sure makes it sound like they're not in the park until they fall. Does it occur the moment they hit the ground, or sooner? If ground, then that tells us that the quadcopter isn't in the park while off the ground either; it's above the park.

Re:The rule says, “No vehicles in the park” by jvanderbot on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:34AM (#36456163)
Planes are usually required to fly above the height defined by property laws, and so it makes sense that "park" is deines by the areas that planes don't fly in.