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Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @02:55PM (#36437010)
Ah, I see he's got the 'Elon Musk school of thought' in regards to cutting corners in vehicles carrying people's lives and seeing safety regulations as a nuisance hindering his "visionary progress" that these pesky gray-beard engineers just can't grasp.

Fucking idiot CEO, took 4 innocent people with him. Aero, naval, automotive, all have a a history written in blood, and all those rules and regulations aren't to hinder innovation but to save lives based on what we've learned from all the people who lost their lives in the past.

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by nannal on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:22PM (#36437339)
They'll stop doing it when it stops being profitable.
Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by ChuckNorris89 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:25PM (#36437380)
It's the government's job to regulate people not being allowed to pay for trips to the bottom of the ocean in submarines that look like they were built on Linus Tech Tips.
Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by bell-cot on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:36PM (#36437562)
> It's the government's job to regulate...

Arguable...but which government? They were operating in international waters, and it's not like the UN runs an Ocean Engineering Safety Police Dept.

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by nannal on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:15AM (#36443070)
The ship has to be under some countries flag, it's not like international waters are a totally lawless zone where you can loot, murder and rape without consequence.
Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by bell-cot on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:26AM (#36443856)
Sadly, being able to "shop" for a county with minimal safety, inspection, and enforcement standards is a valued feature of the modern ship registration system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience

(And, so long as you keep your rape and murder within your ship - that is also a feature. If you are a crime victim on a cruise ship, and the cruise company feels that looking into what happened to you is not in their own business interest... OTOH, you or your survivors may be able to sue the cruise company for damages in a shore-based court. Google for the obvious if your want to see stories about that.)

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by rootusrootus on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:47PM (#36437750)
> the 'Elon Musk school of thought' in regards to cutting corners in vehicles

You're thinking only of FSD. That is a legitimate observation. But objectively, Teslas tend to score highly for safety in independent tests.

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by asynchronous on Thursday June 22, 2023 @03:48PM (#36437759)
I support the hate but don’t compare this to Elon Musk, his companies have taken more people more places safer than dozens of other competitors.

Tesla is one of the safest car brands to drive, SpaceX has yet to kill or maim anyone.

Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by carbine on Thursday June 22, 2023 @04:05PM (#36438051)
Yes, and SpaceX's approach to safety and testing is significantly different for crewed and uncrewed rockets.
Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by cma on Thursday June 22, 2023 @06:33PM (#36440089)
The untrained consumer beta testing of FSD...
Re:Debris field found in search for missing submersible by gcgfromhell on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:09PM (#36439057)
"Ah, I see he's got the 'Elon Musk school of thought' in regards to cutting corners in vehicles carrying people's lives and seeing safety regulations as a nuisance hindering his "visionary progress" that these pesky gray-beard engineers just can't grasp.

Fucking idiot CEO, took 4 innocent people with him. Aero, naval, automotive, all have a a history written in blood, and all those rules and regulations aren't to hinder innovation but to save lives based on what we've learned from all the people who lost their lives in the past."

I agree, except maybe on the notion of "innocent billionaire". They too usually have a history of blood. Except maybe the 16yo tho. Maybe.