Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by yardie on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:35AM
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It appears these robotaxis need an emergency button similar to the ones on industrial robots. But instead of completely stopping, a remote operator immediately takes over and bugs out. Meanwhile, the AI can take a backseat and observe how to respond in a situation like this. Because obviously they don't have enough training when dealing with emergency situations.
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Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by rcme on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:37AM
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The article mentions that employees can take remote control over the cars but sometimes that’s not enough to fix the issue caused by the car.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by wiihack on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:38AM
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I think in case of an emergency the doors of the car should get unlocked and someone nearby should overtake
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by saalweachter on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:43AM
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I feel like you could have some sort of standard handle on the front of a robotaxi to lead it around.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by duncan-donuts on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:58AM
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Idk I think I agree with the chief here that they're not ready for primetime if we're suggesting we put a halter and lead rope on an autonomous vehicle.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by bombcar on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:00PM
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the elites don't want you to know but the robotaxis in san francisco are free you can take them home i have 458 robotaxis
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by delecti on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:43AM
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That's a good way to make carjacking easy.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by m00x on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:49AM
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- Get carjacked
- Car enabled carjacking mode
- Locks all doors, locks manual controls, drives directly to the first SFPD station.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by dylan604 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:55AM
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Maybe they should institute the emergency foam filling system to protect the occupants as well
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by 542354234235 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:22PM
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Excellent idea. You inspire joy joy feelings in those around you.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by wholinator2 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @01:53PM
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maybe instead of adding even more complexity to solve the issues our solutions are creating, we could wait until we have solutions that don't create huge issues. What happens if the thing locks all the doors and manual controls and then drives off a bridge? Or if it's caught fire. Personally I'm barely okay with taking planes, if there was a car that could, at any moment, turn into a prison cell I'm not going near one of those things as long as I live. Even if they say they've disabled the "feature". Do we really trust these corporations with our lives so much that we're willing to get perma-locked into their test vehicles?
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by xzel on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:45AM
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Kia and Hyundai have already made that trivial the past few years. At least with the tender to their provider and GPS the robot taxis should be recoverable and disableable.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by dylan604 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @11:57AM
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Maybe a game controller gets unlocked from the back of the front seat so the passenger can take over GTA style
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by pbhjpbhj on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:03PM
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The closest I've come to this scenario is playing games (eg CSGO) where you can take over a bot. So often, I take over a bot (without spectating their play first) and immediately die because I have no context for their situation and they're about to be shot at; in many of those situations I feel there bot would have done better than I did.
This makes me feel a human operator probably would be no good at taking control ... however a computer that has access to more data (eg data from other vehicles), or that has more control (of other vehicles, of traffic lights, of pedestrian crossings, etc.) or more capabilities, might be far more successful than a person?!
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by soco on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:41PM
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I don't see how the situation is similar. The robotaxi is parked in front of you, you connect to it and move it away. The entire context is right there.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by wholinator2 on Thursday June 22, 2023 @01:49PM
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well honestly, if we're saying that the person being inconvenienced is the one who gets to take control, there's probably gonna be a lot of angry people driving these cars off of bridges or into ditches or something. Giving an incredibly frustrated person control of a separate car, though better for context, is probably worse for desired outcome.
Re:San Francisco fire chief fed up with robotaxis that mess ...
by soco on Friday June 23, 2023 @04:57AM
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How about the robotaxi company driving in respect to regulations and other's property, then we wouldn't have this discussion. Oh, it's technically not possible? Well, then don't drive them.