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Re:Delaware bill (HB 121) to allow corporations to vote in e... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @08:33PM (#36426660)
It’s a non-obvious concept. If you don’t have some knowledge of the history of law, civics and republics, it’s easy to think of the Bill of Rights as granting rights.
Re:Delaware bill (HB 121) to allow corporations to vote in e... by boomboomsubban on Thursday June 22, 2023 @12:56AM (#36428145)
Even with some knowledge of those things, it's hard to rationalize inherent rights with what we do to noncitizens. Everybody has these rights, but for some reason the Bill of Rights only protects the rights of Americans. Pretty easy to mistake that as the Bill of Rights granting rights.
Re:Delaware bill (HB 121) to allow corporations to vote in e... by Dalewyn on Friday June 23, 2023 @02:05AM (#36443380)
>for some reason the Bill of Rights only protects the rights of Americans.

That is because the Bill of Rights form the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution, the preamble of which opens thusly:

"We the people of the United States,"[1]

That literature has been interpreted by the courts as the Constitution only applying to United States citizens.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_United_States_...

Obligatory IANAL.

Re:Delaware bill (HB 121) to allow corporations to vote in e... by boomboomsubban on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:12AM (#36444877)
>That literature has been interpreted by the courts as the Constitution only applying to United States citizens

"For some reason" seems like a fair description of that. It's not explicitly said, the closest is "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."

And "We the people" is talking about who wrote it, I don't get how one can claim that bit is who it applies to.

I get the arguments made to do this, to me they seem clearly against the spirit of the Bill of Rights/Founding Fathers, something we generally hold to be sacrosanct.