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Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by theironhammer on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @04:49PM (#36424232)
Ukraine tried to ban the Russian language. Ukraine is not sweet and innocent like the lame-stream press would have you believe.

Most Ukrainians wanted peace within Ukraine. It was some others who didn't and they got their wish.

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by _kbh_ on Wednesday June 21, 2023 @10:32PM (#36427364)
> Ukraine tried to ban the Russian language.

This is literally not true and even if it was it doesn’t matter it’s their country they can ban Russian if they want.

> Ukraine is not sweet and innocent like the lame-stream press would have you believe.

I’m confused about this justifies the rape, torture and summary executions of civilians as well as the countless other war crimes.

> Most Ukrainians wanted peace within Ukraine. It was some others who didn't and they got their wish.

Russia is the one who decided not to have peace when they decided to break the Budapest memorandum multiple times.

Russia can leave and peace will be had, or Russia can stay and Russians will continue to die in droves.

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by lisasays on Thursday June 22, 2023 @01:54AM (#36428443)
It’s their country they can ban Russian if they want.

That's quite a chauvinistic attitude to take -- and ignores the complex history of linguistic diversity in Ukraine.

No linguistic expression should be banned anywhere, period, full stop.

(To be clear: this is no way supports what the troll account above you was posting, which was of course pure nonsense).

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by _kbh_ on Thursday June 22, 2023 @02:40AM (#36428719)
> That's quite a chauvinistic attitude to take -- and ignores the complex history of linguistic diversity in Ukraine.

> No linguistic expression should be banned anywhere, period, full stop.

The point is moot anyway as Russian is not banned in Ukraine, even as Russia is actively invading it.

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by lisasays on Thursday June 22, 2023 @08:46AM (#36431299)
It's not moot, because you said it, and it was an ugly and awful thing to say.

Exactly the same as saying "It's their country, they can do whatever they want to minority X" in any other context.

Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by inglor_cz on Thursday June 22, 2023 @07:32AM (#36430538)
AFAIK about 20 per cent of Ukrainian citizens can't even speak Ukrainian (not just don't prefer to, but actually can't), so trying to ban the language would be an exercise in futility.
Re:Noam Chomsky on Language, Left Libertarianism, and Progress by lisasays on Thursday June 22, 2023 @08:43AM (#36431267)
Of course it's never going to happen. I was referring the attitude expressed. Which is (on its own terms) quite obnoxious.