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Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by robertlagrant on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:20AM (#36392076)
> And what happened in response to that? He became wealthiest person on earth and for years was considered second coming of Jesus in the tech circles, that only started to fade recently.

No, it wasn't in response to that. I don't understand this sort of deliberate misinterpretation. It happened because the world rewards production. For example, Tesla jump-started the world's EV movement, and leads it by volume. SpaceX means the US aren't currently trying to get a Russia that it's in a proxy war with to take its astronauts to the ISS.

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by sangnoir on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:07PM (#36392675)
> It happened because the world rewards production.

The world rewards anticipated production - I find Tesla's P/E absurd.

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by FireBeyond on Monday June 19, 2023 @02:16PM (#36394642)
Because it was (and to me still is) absurd.

At one point, Tesla was worth more than: Toyota, Volkwagen Group, Hyundai/Kia, General Motors, Ford, Nissan, Honda, Fiat Chrysler, Renault, Suzuki, Daimler, BMW, Mazda and Mitsubishi combined. (Plus several Chinese manufacturers: SAID, Geely, Changan, Dongfeng).

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by tim333 on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @08:15AM (#36402945)
The hypothesis is Tesla becomes like Apple in cell phones vs all the other manufacturers. Apple may not have all the sales but it has most of the profits. Not saying that will happen with Tesla but it's a possibility.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by robertlagrant on Monday June 19, 2023 @06:33PM (#36397286)
Well, not exactly. It rewards current production, i.e. people buy Teslas, as well as future production, i.e. we think you can make us money based on your track record.

I should say more precisely that the world doesn't reward Tesla; it thinks it can get more out of Tesla than it gives it. Which is probably the least worst system.

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by therealdrag0 on Monday June 19, 2023 @07:52PM (#36397941)
Their PE is “only” 65 atm, which isn’t THAT crazy. At one point it was 1000 lol. It’s been falling since 2020 when they started being profitable.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by gmd63 on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:32PM (#36393022)
Yes and bodies that reward growth over all else develop cancer.

Not everyone blindly rewards production at all costs.

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by robertlagrant on Monday June 19, 2023 @06:35PM (#36397297)
I'm sorry, I've no idea how this relates to anything being said here.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by r00fus on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:15AM (#36401515)
I think it implies that Musk and or US society are cancerous. Quite a bold assertion but one that doesn't seem wrong on the face of it.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by robertlagrant on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @06:06AM (#36401866)
Of course it's wrong. Without specifics it's 100% wrong. With some very well-chosen parameters that percentage might drop slightly, but I can't see how.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by gmd63 on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @06:14PM (#36411448)
There is a parallel between chasing growth at all costs biologically and financially. Both heuristics produce ugly results.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by gmd63 on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @06:16PM (#36411464)
Just pointing out that rewarding growing things absent any sort of elegance or tact can result in oligarchs having too much undue influence just as cancerous growth in biology diverts too many resources toward undeserving cells that mismanage it.

We have to be aware of when things can go wrong to develop an appropriate immune response.

Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by cyanydeez on Monday June 19, 2023 @02:44PM (#36395019)
America jmp started it via incentives and Tesla happened to have the business model.
Re:Twitter’s Lawyers Admit They’re Overwhelmed; 2000 Laid Of... by robertlagrant on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @06:06AM (#36401870)
It didn't happen to have anything.