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Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by mikeyouse on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:41AM (#36391586)
A CBS article identified this company’s sub as the one involved;

https://twitter.com/OceanGateExped

Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by OJFord on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:52AM (#36391734)
So does the submitted article.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by mtmail on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:01AM (#36391843)
The sentence with company name was added later, I still have the browser tab open when it was submitted to HN. It used to say "Multi day trips to the wreck cost tens of thousands of dollars and one dive to Titanic." Now it mentions the company and more accurate pricing.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by TeMPOraL on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:46AM (#36392417)
Makes me wish for an extension that would temporarily - for a few days or weeks - cache everything you see under a given URL[0], and 1) tell you if the content changed since your last visit, 2) allow you to browse history of versions, and, importantly, 3) diff entries in that history.

Plenty of times I had a vague hunch the page said something slightly or perhaps entirely different just minutes or hours earlier, but have no easy way of checking it. Even if I have it opened in another tab, most likely the browser already decided to unload the content and reloads the page when I try to view it.

Bonus points if it could sync across devices - e.g. between phone and desktop using Firefox sync. Even recently, I had a situation where I was convinced someone edited their HN comment to say something 180° opposite to what it said earlier, in the 30 minutes between me reading it on a phone, and then reading it on a desktop later. Of course, the phone tab unloaded itself long ago, so I have no way of checking if it indeed happened, or was it just my brain misreading it the first time...

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[0] - +/- ignoring or employing some workarounds for SPAs that don't update URLs when the page content changes, or don't even use URLs to locate content in the first place.

Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by aborochoff on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:52AM (#36391748)
Fascinating theyre relying on starlink for operations. I heard starlink was fairly unreliable from folks who have it in remote areas.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by samtho on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:30AM (#36392229)
I wouldn’t say they’re relying on it for operations. It’s not like they doing some internet controlled submersible, it is still watercraft with someone at the helm and more than likely, they use some type of local communication for the surface crew to communicate with the expedition crew.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by dboreham on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:28AM (#36392198)
One data point from me: it's not unreliable.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by dreamcompiler on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:05PM (#36392651)
Likewise for me. However, I'm on land, where the Starlink satellites don't have to relay comms between each other. It's a completely different story out in the middle of the ocean. Starlink only recently started their laser-based relay system, and I have not heard reports about its reliability. It might work great, I don't know. I do know that it was a difficult engineering problem to solve.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by carlosjobim on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:16PM (#36392799)
What better alternatives would they have in the middle of the ocean?
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by paulgb on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:25PM (#36392923)
More traditional satellite networks, I guess? As I understand it, this is what sailors do / did before starlink.

This had me curious if I could find coverage maps of satellite operators, and I found this: https://www.satphonestore.com/coveragemaps

Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by carlosjobim on Monday June 19, 2023 @04:19PM (#36395997)
I'm speculating, but I'm fairly sure that they already have any and every satellite communication system available on-board, just as a back-up. If they're using Star link, it should be because it's working best.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by closewith on Monday June 19, 2023 @05:46PM (#36396878)
Most sailors didn't (and don't) have reliable internet access.
Re:Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search by SV_BubbleTime on Monday June 19, 2023 @12:29PM (#36392969)
I’ve absolutely no idea, but wouldn’t a satellite system higher up like Hughes have a better chance of working out there?