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Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by ticoombs on Monday June 19, 2023 @08:20AM (#36390222)
It's probably a problem with your auto generated password.

Passwords can't be longer than 20char. It's a bug. Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning. Another known bug.

Self plug: come join on https://reddthat.com. We currently don't have email requirements, or any "forms" to fill out before you join.

:)

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by Sakos on Monday June 19, 2023 @08:24AM (#36390256)
> Passwords can't be longer than 20char

This has to be a bad joke.

> Also don't enter an email when trying to join initially, if you can. The UI waits for the email to send before returning

Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit?

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by ticoombs on Monday June 19, 2023 @08:32AM (#36390323)
> > Passwords can't be longer than 20char

> This has to be a bad joke.

There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding.

> Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit?

It is an alternative that removes a problem that Reddit users were facing. Lack of Control. It gives control back to the users. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if a person doesn't want a company being completely in control of everything relating to that platform. The fediverse is that solution

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by Sakos on Monday June 19, 2023 @08:37AM (#36390374)
The vast majority of casual users don't care. They want something that works and doesn't get in their way with weird bullshit. If you want lemmy to be something other than a self-filtered community of misfits and outcasts, you need to make it convenient and easy to use/grok for casual users.

Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by unshavedyak on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:26AM (#36390830)
Lemmy is what it is. Why is it on Lemmy to be what millions of Redditors want as an alternate to Reddit? Your reply seems so hostile when all Lemmy did is exist.

This isn't a VC startup. This isn't even funded i believe. Why the hostility?

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by Sakos on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:40AM (#36390988)
1) People have been gathering around the idea of moving to lemmy (see the Star Trek subreddit for example), resulting in a number of posts over the past week here about it

2) My general frustration with FOSS projects having zero interest in good UX/UI design, resulting in a lack of prioritization for basic stuff like this

Like, if Lemmy has no interest in being a viable option to most people, then fine. People just need to stop pretending that it is.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by unshavedyak on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:43AM (#36391624)
> Like, if Lemmy has no interest in being a viable option to most people, then fine. People just need to stop pretending that it is.

Sure, but i think viable is in the eye of the beholder. In this case it's bleeding edge software not even 1.0 yet, with a massive influx of sudden, demanding users, and no dedicated employees or income (i think). I'd counter that people need to set their expectations accordingly.

For those people unable to deal with reality on this subject Reddit still exists. Stay on it if you want VC polish and the funding that requires. No one is out here making purposefully bad software.

Your frustrations seem better spent on individuals arguing everyone move to Lemmy than it is Lemmy (devs) directly. Stay on Reddit, it sounds like you prefer the VC experience. There's nothing wrong with that.

The FOSS devs are just doing the best they can with the time and resources they have.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by shagie on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:51AM (#36392478)
> ... This isn't even funded i believe. ...

It is currently being worked on through a grant from https://nlnet.nl/

https://lemmy.ml/comment/479066

> When our open source grant from NLNet runs out at the end of this year, we will have to switch to full community funding, probably via yearly funding drives. Currently we only have two full-time devs, @[email protected] and I, but could potentially add more to our little worker coop as we grow.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by unshavedyak on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:57AM (#36392555)
Appreciate the info, thanks!
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by shagie on Monday June 19, 2023 @05:16PM (#36396583)
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_a...

> ...

> For the past three years dessalines and I have been funded to work on Lemmy full-time by generous support from the NLnet foundation. These donations are paid out when we implement certain new features. But now we are busy answering questions, reviewing pull requests and urgentlyfixing problems. That means we are unable to work on the milestones agreed with NLnet, and won’t receive payments from them. We are increasingly reliant on user donations to pay our bills. These donations currently add up to 1500 Euros per month, which is not even enough to pay minimum wage for the two of us. Hopefully more users can consider donating, so that we can put our full attention to making Lemmy better for everyone, and possibly add more developers to our worker co-op in the future.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by distcs on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:36AM (#36390936)
> Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

What is your personal gripe against Lemmy? Lemmy is a FOSS project developed by volunteers. The instances are run by volunteers for fun. It may become something or may not become anything. But the people developing and maintaining Lemmy will have fun regardless, I'm sure.

And all that hard work and fun is offered as a gift to you and me if we want to join one of their instances. You and I don't have to. But that option is there as a gift. Why are you so angry with this gift? If you don't like it, don't use it!

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by Sakos on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:40AM (#36391000)
I don't care how much fun you have. Or how hard you work. I care about users having decent options other than Reddit. If Lemmy doesn't care about that, then fine. People need to stop pretending that it's something other than what it is.
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by distcs on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:49AM (#36391064)
I don't think anyone else cares about what you care about either. Get over yourself! People develop projects. They have fun. Users find the tools that work for them. Nobody really appointed you as the person to worry about what options users have. Users are doing fine looking for options that work for them. They will try out Lemmy. Lemmy may improve or it might not and users may find something else. That's the way the FOSS world works.

Like I am not going to join Lemmy because I don't like the UI/UX issues of Lemmy and I also don't like how communities are dependent on specific instances. If the instance goes down or rogue, the community is affected. But that doesn't mean I am going to disparage their efforts which they are putting in to serve their own needs. If I was so motivated to improve the condition of their UI/UX, I will send pull requests, not talk about it. Talk is cheap!

This is a volunteer-driven FOSS project for christ's sake! Nobody is pretending anything about that!

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by goykasi on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:02AM (#36390587)
> There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding

What have they been doing since 2019?

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by unshavedyak on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:24AM (#36390813)
Being a FOSS project not under the scrutiny of 150,000 refugees and just making a fun side project?
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by ra on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:25AM (#36390823)
I also can't get paste the spinner with passwords < 20 chars.
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by Macha on Monday June 19, 2023 @10:52AM (#36391739)
I just had to sign up for a well known financial services platform which limits passwords to 15 characters.
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by mikeravkine on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:13AM (#36390695)
What's your position on cannabis photo/review content?

Your ToS mentions Australian law so going to guess I am just as unwelcome here as everywhere else

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by ticoombs on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:28AM (#36390851)
I think if all images were hosted not on my infra it would be fine. I am not aware of any laws that forbid sharing information about weed.

But it would need to be heavily moderated. There are already some "trees" communities. Subscribing to them from our instance I wouldn't have a problem with

Edit: position: no, unless we get other moderators and admins we can trust. Currently it's just 2 people doing admin n moderation. Having a community like that may be a lot more involved that I would want to be.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by distcs on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:28AM (#36390854)
> It's probably a problem with your auto generated password.

I am not using auto-generated passwords. Like I said the browser is not sending any request at all to the server.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by alejoar on Monday June 19, 2023 @09:54AM (#36391122)
I have this problem too.

I noticed there's a web socket connection and when you submit the info goes there (not a separate request). Then the client gets something about a captcha and the spinner spins forever.

Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by NoMoreNicksLeft on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:32AM (#36392260)
How does it know how long the password is? Shouldn't that just be hashed in the underlying database?
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by sudosysgen on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:46AM (#36392420)
Perhaps it's a bug in the front-end?
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by NoMoreNicksLeft on Monday June 19, 2023 @11:56AM (#36392539)
Sure, but why would the code ever do anything that could result in failures of longer passwords? I'm struggling to think of a mechanism that could do that inadvertently. You almost have to do .length don't you?
Re:Awesome Lemmy Instances by aio2 on Monday June 19, 2023 @01:59PM (#36394420)
I have a differest experience, I put in over 20 chars for a password and I can register.