wait... are you implying that "k*ygen" is a dirty word?

Dirty word in the context of security, copyright liability, etc.

Ah yes, the age-old hacking tool: ssh-keygen.

Don't spill the hacker secrets!

Just learned "keygen" is the term the script-kiddies use to describe the act of generating fake activation keys. Never let it be said HN is not educational. But I feel the same way I felt when I noticed idiots using "crypto" to refer to cryptocurrency instead of cryptography.

Keygen has been around for for at least 30 years, whereas people misusing the term “crypto” has only been around for five years or so.

Why is it a misuse to use "crypto" to refer to a currency whose design relies on secrets, but it's fine to use "crypto" to refer to keeping communications private using some secret information?

I do crypto the airport (opening the barriers with my passport, where the computer in my passport signs a challenge encrypted with its pubkey) and do crypto with my phone (making a call, which is encrypted with Ericsson SNOW), and do crypto at the corner shop (using my card, same as the passport).

If airports, phones, and corner shops claimed they 'work in crypto' it would be similarly misleading.

FWIW I work in web3/defi, used to work in PKI.

"Crypto" has been around for much longer than 5 years. I remember someone using it in reference to a Motorola DES chip in the late 70s. And the IACR Crypto conference has been going on since the early 80s.

Greetings! I am here to derail the thread with a remark about "organic chemistry" versus "organic foods".

Sometimes being there first doesn't mean you get to use the simplification forever. Cryptography is an older thing than cryptocurrency, but both are unwieldy to pronounce and have been simplified to "crypto". Since cryptography is math and cryptocurrencies (in the "popular" sphere) is a get rich quick scheme, the abbreviation that works for both generally became applied to the latter.

I am sure organic chemists are a little weirded out when people tell them "oh yeah I love those new strawberries we got". This is that.

You're getting downvoted but I also don't understand the relevance here. Parent seems to imply this is a mistake by npm relying on partial censorship but aren't they literally banning this exact word?

tee hee.

Don't get me started

Relevant username!

I don't see the problem, it's a perfectly cromulent word.

I understand reddit is down or whatever, but this kind of stupid fucking comment isn't welcome here.

I mean, just to push one onto the stack...

> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

> Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

FYI, barking orders at people and swearing at them because you're personally offended by something said in humor, is much more stupid, and is arguably more unwelcome here than GP's comment.

Don't do this here.

Shouldn't it be spelled "de Kok" if that's a surname?

De Kok, De Cock, De Kock, De Cok, ... All the same. Surname spelling was highly volatile before the French took over.

Beware reading Philip K Dick.

No, because of Baantjer.

Met seej ow seej kaa.

I only recently learned that my username for 20 years has "orgy" in it, and I've been getting blocked by many games

20+ years of this handle online without problems, and I found out trying to sign up for Stern Pinball Insider that "bint" is a dirty word: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bint

Really isn't, it's about the same as calling a woman a cow.

Wrong.

Usage varies, but "bint" more commonly is akin to "b*tch", and is used in a very coarse and derogatory manner.

Love how you're trying to justify degrees of acceptable misogynist terms, though /s

Um? Here in the UK it's uncommon to hear it these days but it carries no special weight.

How come you're unwilling to spell the word bitch?

Nah, it's not remotely uncommon, you must be in a very small bubble -- but that's quite apparent by your woefully inaccurate definition to begin with.

I'm not "unwilling" to, there's just no need to set off censors unnecessarily. Great job on the baseless assumption and false accusation though, really showing your intelligence and righteousness there /s

You yourself imply there are different degrees to how acceptable the two terms are.

Why else do you spell out one word but censor the other?

Yes, and your definition is by far the exception, not the rule. Maybe don't claim a definitive meaning when you're wrong to begin with.

One is much more likely to set off censors. Why do you feel the need to ask ridiculous questions? The word you use had already been said, censoring it would be meaningless -- whereas you ascertained the word I meant easily ;)

I’m not actually the first person you were talking to, so I didn’t give you any definition.

In fact, if you note, I’ve never actually used either word. I just refer to them obliquely.

"You yourself imply there are different degrees to how acceptable the two terms are."

I never claimed either were acceptable or unacceptable.

Interesting how you completely gloss over your needless language policing, especially when you - by your own admission -- haven't even used the terms in question (and presumably lack the nuance necessary to weigh in, despite jumping in anyway) shrug

> I never claimed either were acceptable or unacceptable

and

> Love how you're trying to justify degrees of acceptable misogynist terms

So you are not saying either are unacceptable, and you endorse 'acceptable' misogyny. So you are a misogynist, but an ok one.

Very well.

What the ever-loving fuck? I don't endorse ANY misogyny you utter melon, which was why I called you out on your "Really isn't, it's about the same as calling a woman a cow." nonsense.

The only one "endorsing" misogyny here is you. Stop projecting, pillock.

Unless you're equally vocal about the terms Dick, Prick, Cock and all the other male specific derogatory terms, then you're just a foolish and socially harmful bigot masquerading as an activist.

And I KNOW you are silent on those terms and use them frequently...

“I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!”

This page is a delight to read.

Filters like that are so trivial to bypass on a higher level too. Look at how many gamer or forum tags are “Lovecraft’s Cat”. And good luck catching those cases on a non-manual basis.

I once happened across a Github where all the repos were subtle little bits of anti-Semitic cant relating to the Holocaust. More than subverting them, they also often function as dog-whistles for fellow travelers.

(For those not getting the specific one used above, Lovecraft had a black cat and a common name for black cats at the time combined a now nigh-unprintable racial slur for black people with the word 'man'.)

Github has a reporting feature!

There’s an NFT collection called Milady which has subtle Holocaust references - ‘Treblinka’ written on shirts, the rarest traits are ‘SS’ tier etc.

Make sure you travel via Penistone on your way there

I assume that's near Scunthorpe

How does Massachusetts get a pass?

Related, here's a pretty impressive attempt to detect bad words, to allow a talking banana on a Twitch live stream, without being banned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5ppf0po3k

I use the same method for a Twitch TTS system I built and it works very, very well.

I call systems that attempt to filter out bad words and fall prey to the Scunthorpe problem as "failing the Scunthorpe test".

There are people that fail the test, too - such as people who think that the terms "whitelist" and "blacklist" are offensive.