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Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by FormerBandmate on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:05AM (#36311299)
Russia is waging a war of conquest and China has concentration camps. Iran brutally oppresses women and Mexican drug cartels melt children in acid. The US and its allies are free democracies where people vote. Spare us this sophomore in college "both sides are the same" nonsense
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by oilchange on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:35AM (#36311785)
> Russia is waging a war of conquest

So then the liberal democracies were against the US when we invaded iraq? Are they against the occupation of germany, japan, korea, italy, etc? Or is it not conquest when we do it?

> China has concentration camps

"Concentration camps". Yes and liberal democracies have torture chambers all over the world. Strange. Did they disband these "concentration camps"? Have the ugyhers been genocided already? Why the complete radio silence on the "genocide" of the century? Because it turned out to be a lie and propaganda? Wasn't it 3 million died in the camps. Then it was 300K. Then 300. Then 3. Then 0. Now do you want to discuss palestine? Or do muslims in palestine not matter?

> Iran brutally oppresses women

No they don't. Just because they have their own cultural values doesn't mean they oppress women. No more than saudi arabia does. You support diversity right?

> The US and its allies are free democracies where people vote.

So is russia, iran, venezuela, etc...

> Spare us this sophomore in college "both sides are the same" nonsense

No. One side is clearly worse - the "liberal democracies".

Who invaded more muslim countries and destroyed more muslim lives? Liberal democracies or china, russia, iran, mexican cartels?

Which country is more oppressive to women? Saudi arabia ( liberal democracies favorite muslim country ) or iran?

Which country has waged more wars of conquest? Liberal democracies or russia, china, iran, mexican cartels?

By your own criteria, the liberal democracies are the worst.

Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by flerchin on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @01:13PM (#36313387)
>So then the liberal democracies were against the US when we invaded iraq?

They were.

> Are they against the occupation of germany, japan, korea, italy, etc?

No one in any of those countries is occupied today, and all are liberal democracies.

Saudi Arabia is just as bad as Iran.

Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by inconceivable on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:11AM (#36311411)
> China has concentration camps

why isn't the west or the islamic world doing anything about this? isn't the forever war in the middle east over by now? why can't we redeploy some of those military assets to invade china next? certainly we can get support from saudi and israel and pakistan and the UK to support us, right?

Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by FormerBandmate on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:15AM (#36311476)
China is really big and has nukes
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by inconceivable on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:16AM (#36311496)
yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured.
Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by Anon_Forever on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @12:43PM (#36312941)
>yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that the US has configured.

yeah, so in other words, might makes right in the world that humans have configured.

FTFY. Violence is the supreme authority that all other authority derives from.

Re:U.S. Spy Agencies Buy Vast Quantities of Americans’ Perso... by tastyfreeze on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @02:12PM (#36314299)
If anything that has been the example the US has set for the rest of the world by "spreading democracy" through regime change and war. The correct way to spread democracy is to be a shining example of a free society by being prosperous without killing people that have done you no harm.