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Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by anthonypasq on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @09:58AM (#36310319)
im sorry, but people who chose not to get vaccinated knew what they were doing and governments and public health officials holding everyone else hostage cause some people wanted to engage in risky behavior is not justifiable under any ethical framework i can think of.
Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by boston_clone on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @12:23PM (#36312553)
im sorry, but people who chose to speed knew what they were doing and governments and public safety officials holding everyone else to a speed limit cause some people wanted to engage is risky behavior is not justifiable under any ethical framework i can think of.

…maybe think harder, then?

Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by anthonypasq on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @10:54AM (#36326933)
no because this is a terrible analogy. Speeding endangers others who have not consented to that danger, not getting vaccinated has absolutely no societal risk in this particular scenario with covid.

If I could make my car crash proof (me getting vaccinated in this analogy), i would have no issues with people wanting to drive as fast as they like (they already do it anyway).

Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by boston_clone on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @02:10PM (#36330042)
it’s only a bad analogy if you have a poor understanding of things.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757

Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by anthonypasq on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @06:22PM (#36333603)
that was published in 2021 about data from march 2020 to nov 2020, its completely irrelevant. I mean can you at least try?

also, even if vaccines did stop transmission your argument still doesnt make sense. I can protect myself by being vaccinated. I dont give a shit if the person next to me is unvaccinated, im already protected myself. If you decide not to, you are consenting to increased risk.

Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by boston_clone on Thursday June 15, 2023 @08:36AM (#36339585)
Who would win - a peer reviewed article with published methodologies and citations? Or some internet rando with no medical background simply saying “that’s irrelevant”?

Enjoy dying on this hill, Anthony.

Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted by anthonypasq on Thursday June 15, 2023 @01:38PM (#36344000)
what hill am i dying on? that vaccines work, just differently than you want to admit?