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Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by renewiltord on Monday June 12, 2023 @12:52PM (#36296655)
They're the same thing and used interchangeably. The sexual abuse is from the sharing lascivious pictures of someone taken without their consent, with the additional context that children are not understood to be capable of consent for sharing lascivious pictures. It is not physical abuse.
Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by Eisenstein on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:36PM (#36297584)
What would you call whatever that japanese underage comic thing is? It features no persons and no one was abused yet it still illegal. I don't object to the term as applied, but I don't particularly feel great about the word 'abuse' being used for cartoon characters since it degrades the experience of human survivors.
Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by MacsHeadroom on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:04PM (#36299243)
> yet it still illegal.

Not in the U.S., federally at least, where the justice department's guidance specifies that CP is media which "appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor."

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-fede...

Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by Dylan16807 on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:00PM (#36296815)
That... is an abuse of the word abuse.

Also wouldn't that logic apply to pictures that were originally taken openly and innocently?

Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by slg on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:36PM (#36297580)
Use of the images can be abusive even if the creation of them wasn't. Revenge porn is an obvious example. Even legally and consensually created images can be used to abuse someone.
Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by Dylan16807 on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:48PM (#36297831)
Under a broad definition of just "abuse", yes.

But "sexual abuse" is a specific thing, and socially attacking someone with revenge porn is not at all "sexual abuse".

It's a different category, just like punching someone in the face is a different category.

Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by slg on Monday June 12, 2023 @02:03PM (#36298117)
From the Wikipedia article on the subject[1]:

>The practice has also been described as a form of psychological abuse and domestic violence, as well as a form of sexual abuse.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn

Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by solumunus on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:30PM (#36297473)
This is a hill to avoid dying on.
Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by Dylan16807 on Monday June 12, 2023 @01:34PM (#36297546)
I want to reserve the phrase "child abuse" for real child abuse, so that it gets taken as seriously as possible and not diluted. I think that is a sufficiently good motivation to stand on this hill.
Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by renewiltord on Monday June 12, 2023 @03:19PM (#36299459)
I suspect there's a transformation through intent.

This does lead to poor policing (like the famous Google banning man for taking photo of his child's genitals to send to doctor story).

It appears that in present-day English people use the word 'abuse' to mean more than physical abuse. If you're a prescriptivist that may upset you, but isn't that the nature of being a prescriptivist? Does it perhaps beg the question "why be a prescriptivist?"? Aren't you, perhaps, literally standing against the world?

Re:Reddit.com appears to be having an outage by lelanthran on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:20AM (#36310591)
Hijacking the phrase "sexual abuse" to make innocently taken pictures seem more serious of a problem is trivialising real sexual abuse.

Yeah, I went there... You're trivialising real sexual abuse.