Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted
by HardlyCurious on Monday June 12, 2023 @06:16AM
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Discussing this isn't pointless just because we don't have definitive proof. We need to determine what happened based on what we do know. 7+million people are dead. Gain of function is happening in labs all over the world. Humanity can do something here to reduce risk.
Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted
by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday June 12, 2023 @07:38AM
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I actually do want to know what can humanity actually do to reduce risk here? Even if we were to attribute 7+ million dead to GoF research that doesn’t mean GoF research will be stopping anytime soon. It’ll just become hidden, and then if or when the next pandemic happens we may be in an even worse informational shitshow as various counties try to hide their own research sites or whatever.
Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted
by elmolino89 on Monday June 12, 2023 @08:42AM
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Despite rather intense searching the closest strain to C19 in the wild split ca 50 years ago. Please tell how do you introduce this famous mutation not into any of the commonly found covid viruses but create C19 differing from these.
Who in a right mind (just leaving for a moment how) would do that? As: create a separate strain of coronavirus just to introduce one specific mutation.
Re:What went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted
by jasonlotito on Monday June 12, 2023 @09:48AM
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> We need to determine what happened based on what we do know.
Incorrect. We need to determine what happened based on all the evidence. We can't just make stuff up to fill in the blanks.
i.e. If what we know doesn't contain facts essential to the determination, we can't just "think about it" harder.
Did you consider that maybe the reason this proposal was written was because this mutation was the most likely way this kind of virus could mutate to infect humans? Think about it.
I don’t understand why people keep throwing around all kind of unsubstantiated facts like if they suddenly made things clearer. The situation is overall pretty clear. Could the pandemic be linked to an accidental leak from a gain-of-function study at the Wuhan lab? Most certainly. Do we have evidence that it did? No, we don’t. Could it come from somewhere else? Sure, it can. Was there a properly done inquiry with full collaboration from the lab and the host country? Absolutely not, China was extremely uncooperative and did all it could to control the narrative surrounding the pandemic.