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Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by j45 on Thursday February 23, 2012 @02:38PM (#3626368)
Hi, just out of curiosity, did you own a smartphone from 96 to the early 2000's?

The Treo was the original smartphone. The orignal smart phone that Blackberry copied was the Treo.

Apple's spin was ditching the keyboard, but by then even the sony ericcson P800 had a full screen phone with a touch keyboard years before apple.

http://www.google.ca/search?&q=sony+ericcson+p800

Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by gnaffle on Thursday February 23, 2012 @05:44PM (#3627162)
The Treo was hardly the original smartphone. Nokia had the Communicator before that, and Alcatel had the One Touch Com in 1996: http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/3/7206/16273817/p...

Apples spin wasn't ditching the keyboard as so many people think, it was designing the user interface around finger-based touch, making the interface easy enough for normal people to use, and finally to ship a decent performing browser at a time when most other phones were a nightmare to use when browsing the web (try a N95, also released in 2007, to see what I mean)

Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by j45 on Thursday February 23, 2012 @06:39PM (#3627301)
You're right.

I forgot about the communicator because I didn't consider it a smart-enough phone to use. I kept using my Palm Pilot Pro becuse it gave me the productivity I needed. The communicator definitely had a keyboard and apps though, I just didn't find them usable at the time.

By far it is still one of the most bad ass looking phones, with that folding out.

On a side note, the Handspring Visor Phone addon is also worthy of a shoutout, since it was out before the Treo..

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Handspring_Releases_V...

Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by moylan on Thursday February 23, 2012 @02:54PM (#3626440)
i'd have said 1996 with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_9000_Communicator

but it was a niche product that probably didn't appear in the u.s. much.

as a psion user i lusted after these devices. but price of mobile data put them out of my reach.

i used a psion 5 as my main computer till 99 when i wanted to start ripping cds for an mp3 player amongst other things.

Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by wmf on Thursday February 23, 2012 @05:06PM (#3627014)
I owned a P800 and I consider the iPhone to be in a completely different class. Each of the individual differences is small, but when taken together the feel of using them is quite different.
Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by wvenable on Friday February 24, 2012 @01:15AM (#3628225)
To be fair, the P800 had a 150mhz processor and 16 MB of RAM and could display a whopping 4,098 colors. It came out around the same time as Windows XP SP1.
Re:If Android is a "stolen product," then so was the iPhone by fpgeek on Friday February 24, 2012 @01:20AM (#3628232)
> Each of the individual differences is small, but when taken together the feel of using them is quite different.

Fair enough, but now you're describing evolution, not revolution.