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Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by Night_Thastus on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:00AM (#36242986)
If you can, there are some great borosilicate glass containers out there. I use them for everything. The ones I have seal well enough that I can fill it with soup and stick it in a backpack, ride somewhere and it's fine on the other side.

Thick enough to be basically unbreakable, microwavable, dishwasher-safe, etc. Don't need to worry about tomato staining either like on plastic. I've been thrilled with mine.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by adhesive_wombat on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:21AM (#36243386)
> basically unbreakable

The clip-retaining rims seem to love to chip on the IKEA 365 style ones.

The long-tabbed GlassLock ones seem less vulnerable to that.

Which not unique to glass boxes, I'm still amazed by how robust the living hinges can be, some are going on 10 years and haven't split yet.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by mszcz on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:28AM (#36243532)
That's interesting. I have around 10-15 of those IKEA 365 glass containers with plastic lids and have never had them chip. I stick them in the dishwasher all the time.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by adhesive_wombat on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:40AM (#36243757)
I have had Lock&Lock ones, of almost exactly the same design, for about 10 years and they're only recently starting become significantly chipped, but I had an IKEA one get a small chip within months. Maybe it's how I stack then without lids (physically don't have cupboard space to store with lids on).
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by curmudgeon22 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:06PM (#36246102)
mine quickly chipped as well... also stack without lids FWIW.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by sen on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:18PM (#36250684)
Yeah we’ve got ~20 or so of the Ikea ones and we do love them, but a few have chipped in that way.

They’re still amazing for the price though considering how thick they are and how heat/cold/etc resistant they are. Many other brands crack if dropped even a small distance, or shatter if pouring hot food directly in from the stove.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by JLCarveth on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:03AM (#36243030)
Aren't the lids still plastic? I've never seen ones with glass lids.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by Grazester on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:05AM (#36243070)
And that is fine. We aren't going to be taking our spoons and forks and scraping the food from the plastic lip as we would with the container nor is the lid in contact with food should we warm it in the microware.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by kingkawn on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:34AM (#36243632)
real confident bout that, kind of like everyone who said that the rest of the container being plastic was acceptable before...
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by organsnyder on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:41AM (#36243760)
Perhaps not perfect, but it's at least a massive improvement over all-plastic containers.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by tescocles on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:43AM (#36243816)
You can find ones with glass lids.

Here in the UK we're lucky that Pyrex is still borosilicate glass, and there are some I've seen with glass lids that are advertised as "zero plastic".

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by rektide on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:32PM (#36247457)
PYREX all caps should be borosilicate. Indeed harder to get now. Submission from 3d ago on the this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36206565
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by NoZebra120vClip on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:32AM (#36256265)
Snopes found a mixture of true and false in these rumors about Pyrex: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/exploding-pyrex/
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by jolux on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:02AM (#36243016)
Aren’t the lids typically plastic though?
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by Night_Thastus on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:03AM (#36243041)
Yes, but the vast majority of the container being glass still has advantages. For example, whenever heating it, you'd remove the lid and only be heating the glass.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by d1sxeyes on Friday June 09, 2023 @02:57AM (#36254280)
Actually, on at least some of the range, Ikea advertise that the lid can be used as a splash guard in both microwave and conventional ovens (at least on my local Ikea website that's what it says), and has photos of the whole kaboodle in the oven: https://www.ikea.com/hu/hu/images/products/ikea-365-eteltaro...
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by giantg2 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:03AM (#36243044)
Yeah. At least the food usually isn't in contact with the lid though.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by bilekas on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:16AM (#36243290)
I would have assumed (probably incorrectly) that the 'seal' which would come in contact with the glass & liquids would be a type of silicone lid, while it could be considered a type of plastic, if its a good food grade lid, I would imagine it's a bit better ?

Ironically though silicone is much harder to recycle though.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by actionfromafar on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:19AM (#36243361)
U don’t recycle plastic, you burn it in a furnace. Spread the word.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by balaji1 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:28AM (#36243520)
Burning seems to be the only good idea over long-term. But someone on HN explained that there are some toxic byproducts to burning plastic. Dioxins for one. So we need some way to capture those waste and store it along with the nuclear waste lol.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by actionfromafar on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:33AM (#36243613)
There are such capture devices and they are already in use to burn trash.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by infogulch on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:34AM (#36243638)
You just need a catalytic converter.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by digging on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:28AM (#36243530)
Not sure if you're serious or not, but plastic should not actually be put in the recycling bin. It almost never gets recycled, and if it does, it degrades quickly and becomes more toxic after recycling.

Plastic is garbage. If you live in a place that burns garbage for energy, that's the best fate for it.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by bilekas on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:33AM (#36243624)
Everytime I think I can do even something small to help, more clever people come along and ruin it!

Does remind me of a cool tech about plasma arc recycling.

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/plasma-arc-recycling.html

It can basically recycle anything into energy from what I briefly read.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by jolux on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:58AM (#36244091)
The lid is often thermoplastic of some sort, sometimes with a rubber gasket and sometimes without.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by George83728 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:35AM (#36243651)
You can buy glass bowls with glass lids.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by ajmurmann on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:43PM (#36244798)
I love using these for things like casseroles. I can bake it directly in the container or even freeze a raw casserole and when ready, defrost and bake. One less dirty dish and no need to transfer and make sure it will fit.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by rektide on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:31PM (#36247438)
Not a huge deal, but heads up from 3d ago that pyrex is now often tempered soda-lime glass & not borosilicate & is somewhat succeptible to thermal shock breakage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36206565

PYREX all caps should be borosilicate still & mostly immune (within reason).

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by goostavos on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:23PM (#36250744)
I learned this one on a very unhappy thanksgiving! It shattered so explosively that every single single food dish was contaminated with glass shards (and some of my blood).

That ended up being a fast food for dinner night.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by mensetmanusman on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:38PM (#36245650)
Storing leftovers in glass when the entire supply chain is plastic... would be interesting to know how futile this is.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by Filligree on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:41PM (#36245716)
Fresh plastic, however. Newly made food-grade plastics will 'leak' a lot less microplastics than anything you reuse.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by pengaru on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:43PM (#36246623)
Contaminants/toxins are cumulative, affecting probabilistic negative outcomes. So it always makes sense to do what you can to reduce your exposure.

Your line of thinking here is the same convenient sort of apathy which enables so many to become and/or stay obese.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by narag on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:28PM (#36248452)
It depends on what you buy and where.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by diydsp on Thursday June 08, 2023 @08:35PM (#36251461)
Not the "entire." Watch some food factory vids. A lot of it is metal, waxed cardboard, silicone etc.