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Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by olyjohn on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @10:58AM (#36227611)
Great, you can keep playing your old ass game at low frame rates. Enjoy your power savings... the game still runs like crap and the GPU still isn't that great.
Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by ryandrake on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @12:05PM (#36228695)
Game enthusiasts can be so weird. Do y'all even have fun playing games, or do you just keep buying hardware and optimizing settings until they run at 120fps, declare victory, and move on to the next AAA game?

I don't think I have worried about game frame rate since the days of Quake 1. I set my graphics settings to "Medium" and then spend the rest of my time actually enjoying my old ass games.

Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by npunt on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:04PM (#36231834)
Its exactly why PC/console gamers (generally, not talking about GP) make terrible customers and Apple is right to not play with fire by courting them too closely - they're loud, cheap, immature, mercurial, and demanding, and being associated with them is probably a net negative for brand. Let them stew in forums arguing over red vs green, tinkering with and breaking the warranty of their PC parts, being disloyal to the brand they loved 5 minutes ago, etc.

Better strategy is to make sure the door isn't closed on gaming for those that want to use their expensive Macs to occasionally play (protect the downside), rather than swing the door open enthusiastically for gamers to rush in.

Re: worrying about fun vs tinkering, I'm reminded of the 4 quadrants of hobbies. What we see on forums are generally gamers interested in gear & discussing, not 'doing the hobby'. https://brooker.co.za/blog/2023/04/20/hobbies.html

Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by incrudible on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:30PM (#36234550)
Yes, gamers have standards and thats why GPU performance on the PC does not suck and why it is relatively affordable. A tough market to be in for sure, everyone wishes they could just be Apple.
Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by granneman on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:28PM (#36247387)
Thank you for that link! Great article with a lot of truth to it.
Re:Apple's game porting toolkit is fantastic. Cyberpunk 2077... by Dylan16807 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:35AM (#36237260)
In many genres of game, frame rate makes a huge difference in the ability to control the game and catch what's happening. Framerate is probably the worst thing you could have picked to mock when you're making an argument about enjoyment. Especially when citing an FPS.