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Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by heavyset_go on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:32PM (#36219998)
> I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay.

This is the same MO as Stephen Greer's grift about the same thing. Greer claims that he was given access to classified documents and information that say the government is hiding their knowledge of, and interactions with, aliens and UFOs.

Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by monetus on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:48PM (#36220734)
I have a family member who won't stop consuming everything about Steven Greer on youtube, and I don't know what to do about it. It is driving me crazy and I just have to tell someone, sorry.
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by nonethewiser on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:38PM (#36221177)
What to do about it? Nothing. You should probably stop thinking about it.
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by JKCalhoun on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:59PM (#36220834)
My sense is that you could remove Steven Greer and it would be something else? Sorry I have a rather pessimistic take.
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by monetus on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:25PM (#36221054)
JFK conspiracy theory content is second to the "antigravity technology stolen from aliens" on her list, so you're not wrong, but Steven Greer has the same reach as those fricken JFK conventions. He'll never go away...
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by sitkack on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:16PM (#36221501)
Replace it with Game of Thrones?
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by King-Aaron on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:22PM (#36221030)
Didn't he start seeing ghosts or some such and started a spiritual ritual camp thing in the desert?
Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by monetus on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:27PM (#36221079)
Yeah, he has a retreat or something I think, billed as more expansive (and expensive) than a tour through the desert.

Edit: found his expeditions

Procedure: If you have not been to an expedition before the tuition fee is $2500 – $3500 depending on facility costs. Each expedition is different.

https://siriusdisclosure.com/expeditions/expeditions-w-dr-gr...

Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by heavyset_go on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:03PM (#36221387)
I have a good friend who went down that rabbithole instead of seeking help and it's consumed him. The obsession is so bad that he lost multiple jobs and became homeless so he can focus on literally talking to aliens using the methods Greer sells. He gives what little money he has to grifers like Greer and the cottage industry that popped up to take money from those with the beliefs he promotes.

I'm familiar with the hopelessness, there's really not much you can do but try to help nudge them into healthier directions without being overt enough for them to shut you out for denying their beliefs.

I've had some success with things like Mirage Men and Mick West's work in helping them understand that there's a lot of manipulation in that space and that not everything can be assumed to be aliens, and it's helped a little, but I've found that they just integrate that information into their belief system. Those people are lying about aliens/UFOs, and that UAP was just a weather balloon, but everything else is real. They've been more discerning about who they give their money to, though, which is a good thing.

Re:US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has i... by pmarreck on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:08PM (#36221441)
In the beginning he seemed to get a significant number of credible witnesses to essentially say what the USG admitted last fall- UFO's are real, and no, we do not know what they are.

I'm sure that at some point he became unhireable and needed to make money any way he could... and that's when the grifts began.

I think he's a mixed bag who unfortunately had to taint himself in order to actually make some money.