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Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by px43 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:49AM (#36212710)
Please take a moment to look at anything that Coinbase legal has put out in the past few years. They have desperately been trying to figure out how to register, to the point of suing the SEC to get information, and the SEC has time and time again refused to provide any information about how to do that.

Coinbase was founded, from day one, to be the most compliant cryptocurrency exchange in the US. They have hired massive teams of former lawmakers and regulators to try to navigate the path to get cleared by the SEC. If Coinbase hasn't been able to do it, how could any other company reasonably expect to do it?

I expect that when Coinbase eventually responds to this, likely in the next few minutes, the response will contain the full timeline of everything they've done to try and register. I've been listening to their lawyers get interviewed on podcasts and seen the countless blog posts they've posted about trying to get anything from the SEC, which has been entirely ignored. It's pretty infuriating. The SEC needs to label Coinbase as some lawless entity that refuses to follow the rules, when nothing could be farther from the truth.

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by ceejayoz on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:18AM (#36213180)
> If Coinbase hasn't been able to do it, how could any other company reasonably expect to do it?

Perhaps the answer is "it can't be done"?

If I tried to start "Uber for Hitmen", and I couldn't find a legal path past regulators, that's because the business model itself is illegal, not because regulators meanly refuse to tell me how to legally murder people.

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by mrguyorama on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:48AM (#36213652)
And most importantly, it doesn't matter what your lawyers say, it's still illegal.
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by hem777 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:34AM (#36214440)
Great analogy! Well done.
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by RVuRnvbM2e on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:28AM (#36213342)
The problem is that, if cryptocurrency tokens are securities, Coinbase's business model is illegal under current securities law.

> ... if various crypto assets are deemed securities, Coinbase would therefore need to register as a securities exchange, in order to keep offering trading in those assets. ... Furthermore, under current securities law, securities exchanges are not permitted to offer services directly to retail customers, and Coinbase could theoretically be forced to separate the exchange and broker portions of the business.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/coinbase-ceo-says-it-is-prep...

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by unyttigfjelltol on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:21AM (#36213227)
Well if you're going to be a regulated securities broker-dealer you can't very well trade in illegal unregistered securities now can you?
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by hef19898 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:18AM (#36213188)
You mean Coinbase's press releases?
Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by FireBeyond on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:21AM (#36214219)
> They have desperately been trying to figure out how to register, to the point of suing the SEC to get information, and the SEC has time and time again refused to provide any information about how to do that.

And yet, despite how they spin it in press releases, their _filing_, which is where the rubber meets the road, says nothing about "figuring out how to register", but rather says that "for many tokens, registering is not possible due to effort involved, or not economically viable" (surprise, surprise, Coinbase doesn't want to absorb the cost of registering securities when it comes to the Shitcoin of the day).

In other words, "we know how to register these tokens as securities - but our business model doesn't make it possible to do so profitably".

Re:Coinbase Sued by SEC for Breaking US Securities Rules by ahahahahah on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @11:44AM (#36214606)
Sure, I can found a drug marketplace selling all drugs and try to be the most compliant of those. Those intentions in no way require that the government just change the rules to allow me to do whatever otherwise illegal thing my business requires.