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Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by tshaddox on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:03PM (#36182359)
But to be fair, that’s just because you couldn’t easily see in that direction. Presumably a Tesla’s cameras can see in all directions.

A better example would probably be hearing emergency sirens before there was any line of sight to the emergency vehicle.

Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by recursive on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:04PM (#36182367)
Tesla cameras can't see through fog any better than eyes.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by sundvor on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:42PM (#36182560)
I think there's a reason why a new sensor suite is rumoured to be imminent. Much better cameras + radar? Key word being "Project Highland".

It won't be a retrofit for older cars, which tells me current owners won't get to experience that next generation on FSD which will be possible.

I never bought mine (Ryzen '22 LR3 with earlier gen radar, now disabled, plus USS - still in use fortunately) for the FSD anyway so I don't mind. I won't blame those who might do though! (This is presently all speculation/rumours until officially confirmed).

Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by judge2020 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:11PM (#36182725)
Must be out of the loop. HW4, which is higher resolution cameras and Phoenix HD Radar, has been in S/X for months and started showing up in (at least Fremont) Model Y's with a build date around May 25th. Highland has nothing to do with this, and Model 3 sales are still doing fine, so they don't need to drop anything yet to boost model 3 demand.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by v0idzer0 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:41PM (#36182884)
Dropping prices doesn’t even have to be about demand. Lot of rivals like Lucid and Rivian struggling mightily in this market. You can pinch them out. You also may just want to share production efficiency gains with the customer for the same reason.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by rootusrootus on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:34PM (#36182850)
Model 3 currently has a $3000 discount to boost demand.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by judge2020 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:39PM (#36182878)
A 3k price drop shows they only need a little bit of a demand boost, especially since the discount is only on inventory cars. Highland will be a massive demand bump for them, since it being new likely pushes some Y purchasers to the 3.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by rootusrootus on Sunday June 04, 2023 @10:07AM (#36185713)
It's only 3k because of the newly available 7500 credit.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by sundvor on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:12PM (#36236708)
Oh thanks, appreciate the updated info.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by zebomon on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:30PM (#36182495)
Is this true though? Earlier today mine picked up on emergency lights that were several hundred feet further away in traffic than I would have seen them. It seems able to enhance the images the cameras capture.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by GenerocUsername on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:44PM (#36182581)
Could also be aware of the position of fixed road equipment via mapping software. It's more plausible than the cameras having some kind of super vision.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by zebomon on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:54PM (#36182634)
It was a police car, not something fixed. I would imagine that the Tesla has zoom built into its camera system, whereas human vision does not.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by judge2020 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:09PM (#36182713)
Realistically the training data contained some amount of emergency lights through fog, so it can identify faint emergency lights through fog as real emergency lights and will appropriately display the warning on-screen.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by GenerocUsername on Monday June 05, 2023 @07:24PM (#36205764)
Also, WAZE and Google maps have had user reported speed traps for some time. So 1 Tesla driving by information the network of the police car and others do not need to observe it to know it's there
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by Blahah on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:52PM (#36182621)
Of course they can. Fog doesn't block mid-IR.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by drno123 on Sunday June 04, 2023 @03:41AM (#36183803)
MWIR sensors are even more expensive than LIDAR, are military controlled and dofficult to export, and Tesla does not have them.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by snovv_crash on Sunday June 04, 2023 @04:19AM (#36183953)
Lidar can't see through fog either.