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Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by sundvor on Saturday June 03, 2023 @10:42PM (#36182560)
I think there's a reason why a new sensor suite is rumoured to be imminent. Much better cameras + radar? Key word being "Project Highland".

It won't be a retrofit for older cars, which tells me current owners won't get to experience that next generation on FSD which will be possible.

I never bought mine (Ryzen '22 LR3 with earlier gen radar, now disabled, plus USS - still in use fortunately) for the FSD anyway so I don't mind. I won't blame those who might do though! (This is presently all speculation/rumours until officially confirmed).

Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by judge2020 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:11PM (#36182725)
Must be out of the loop. HW4, which is higher resolution cameras and Phoenix HD Radar, has been in S/X for months and started showing up in (at least Fremont) Model Y's with a build date around May 25th. Highland has nothing to do with this, and Model 3 sales are still doing fine, so they don't need to drop anything yet to boost model 3 demand.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by v0idzer0 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:41PM (#36182884)
Dropping prices doesn’t even have to be about demand. Lot of rivals like Lucid and Rivian struggling mightily in this market. You can pinch them out. You also may just want to share production efficiency gains with the customer for the same reason.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by rootusrootus on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:34PM (#36182850)
Model 3 currently has a $3000 discount to boost demand.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by judge2020 on Saturday June 03, 2023 @11:39PM (#36182878)
A 3k price drop shows they only need a little bit of a demand boost, especially since the discount is only on inventory cars. Highland will be a massive demand bump for them, since it being new likely pushes some Y purchasers to the 3.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by rootusrootus on Sunday June 04, 2023 @10:07AM (#36185713)
It's only 3k because of the newly available 7500 credit.
Re:The death of self-driving cars is greatly exaggerated by sundvor on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:12PM (#36236708)
Oh thanks, appreciate the updated info.