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Re:Rarbg Is No More by whimsicalism on Thursday June 01, 2023 @04:57PM (#36157221)
Wrong for two reasons:

1. There is no restriction that the asset being borrowed and the collateral are in the same asset class - loans can be extended based on whatever criteria the DAO in charge of the Dai votes on. There are a number of loans backed by real property investments in the US, see [0] under RWA. There are a number of loans also backed by large holdings in US bonds.

2. Dai is pegged to the dollar. It can be instantly exchanged with the dollar at a number of onramps. It is not equivalent to holding volatile crypto like ethereum.

[0]: daistats.com

Re:Rarbg Is No More by lottin on Thursday June 01, 2023 @05:14PM (#36157429)
Okay, these loans that are backed with real world assets are just traditional finance right? We were discussing loans that are granted automatically to anyone without requiring an approval, remember:

> How I can take out a collateralized loan, anywhere in the world, without having to ask for approval?

Re:Rarbg Is No More by whimsicalism on Thursday June 01, 2023 @05:19PM (#36157486)
Is it traditional finance if it is a backing loan for dollar-pegged assets that can be held by anyone in the developed world (ie. rather than rely on your rapidly decreasing Naira - buy some Dai from a local dealer and you have a stable store of value backed by a global basket of assets)? And if the entities granting the loans are anonymous decentralized collectives?

I agree that the overcollateralized loans backed by crypto are less useful unless you want to be investing crypto, which is what I mentioned at the beginning of my comment. I am not the commentator who said the thing about anywhere in the world without approval.

Re:Rarbg Is No More by lottin on Thursday June 01, 2023 @05:37PM (#36157711)
A loan agreement that is enforced by courts of justice is traditional finance certainly.

Loans in decentralised finance use smart contracts, instead of relying on the legal system.

Re:Rarbg Is No More by latchkey on Thursday June 01, 2023 @07:13PM (#36158731)
> Loans in decentralised finance use smart contracts, instead of relying on the legal system.

Code over law.

Re:Rarbg Is No More by latchkey on Thursday June 01, 2023 @07:14PM (#36158745)
And what I was pointing out is that there is a use-case for crypto. DeFi.