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Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:32PM (#36133455)
> I know people who have two factor codes and password vaults on their phone’s that if compromised by a competent attacker could compromise nearly every major corporation in America.

That is a national security concern.

And, no, I don’t mean “warrantless searches of those devices raise national security concerns”, I mean, that state of affairs irrespective of US government search policies is a national security concern.

Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by xvector on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:11AM (#36135074)
I've worked at a security software engineer at multiple FAANG where I've held the proverbial "keys to the kingdom." It was a strange feeling knowing that my compromise could lead to the complete and total takeover of the companies I worked at. Realistically, these companies are already compromised by multiple nation-state actors; regardless, I'm glad to not have that responsibility hanging over my head anymore.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by formerly_proven on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:24PM (#36141853)
The dichotomy between your comment and the sneering of Xooglers in the recent "RCEs on Google engineer workstations is not a security issue" is interesting.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by hayst4ck on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @06:38PM (#36145358)
> recent "RCEs on Google engineer workstations is not a security issue"

I'm interested in reading that if you have a link.

Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by Laaas on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @07:46PM (#36146014)
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by kelnos on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:50AM (#36135276)
Put more simply/directly: if these people put those credentials on their phones in the first place, they should be embarrassed by their security hygiene. More than embarrassed: possibly fired, or at least have that access taken away until they take a basic infosec awareness course.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by t8sr on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @03:26AM (#36135506)
What are you talking about? Second factor on the phone IS how many companies do 2FA. (Not just ones with poor security, but big tech companies.)

And not for nothing, but a yubikey isn’t exactly protected from border agents either. At least a phone has some legal protections now.

Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by kelnos on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @03:59AM (#36135701)
OP stated that getting access to the phone would have allowed a hacker to compromise the protected systems. A 2FA credential alone shouldn't allow that, so my assumption was that they were storing a full authenticator on the phone.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by throwaway290 on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @04:29AM (#36135898)
steal password + seize the phone to get 2 factor token = compromise.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by tinus_hn on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @07:17PM (#36145769)
It’s not really two factor authentication if the claim is the phone also contains the passwords, the first factor.
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by Y_Y on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @06:11AM (#36136579)
What kind of kompromat could I read on one of these phones during a border search and compromise a big company? Are you talking about a draft press release or dirty secrets about large scale crimes?
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by ExoticPearTree on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @06:45AM (#36136764)
Before Snowden everyone was like, who cares if the government sees my encrypted traffic, they don't know what is inside; or location info. And then people found out that metadata can be more powerful than the actual unencrypted information and can tie a person to a lot of things. So yeah, how about they don't search the phone without probable cause?
Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by bbarnett on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @07:15AM (#36136941)
I find it astonishing, and horribly upsetting, that people think needing a warrant is horrible.

Needing a warrant, means you have to articulate why you want to invade someone's private life, and it further provides a chain of accountability.

It prevents rogue employees(peace officer, border patrol) from doing whatever they want, it provides oversight, it provides a second set of eyes, it provides for adherence to legislation and court decisions!

Yet I see people thinking it's some sort of horrible requirement. So bizarre.

Re:Federal Judge Makes History: Border Searches of Cell Phon... by justinclift on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @10:30AM (#36138835)
It's fairly common to have login credentials to business email, slack (etc) accounts.

So that can be pretty serious for senior staff, infrastructure team members, and so on.