News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Rust has been forked to the Crab Language by arp242 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:33AM (#36124693)
Someone who doesn't alienate a significant part of the community would be a good start (which all occurred long before the whole business with the Minsky comments). That he jump-started things or "is right" isn't actually all that important for effective advocacy; if I were to start my reply with "you asshole!" then you're not very likely to listen to what I have to say. To be honest I don't understand how people fail to understand there's a difference between "being right" and "being someone people listen to".
Re:Rust has been forked to the Crab Language by toyg on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @10:30AM (#36125291)
"Nobody listens to him" and still the likes of Microsoft now develop predominantly in the open.

You don't need to persuade everyone, sometimes it's just enough to witness your truth. Ask christians.

Re:Rust has been forked to the Crab Language by arp242 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @10:54AM (#36125588)
> "Nobody listens to him" and still the likes of Microsoft now develop predominantly in the open.

Stallman had exactly zero influence on that shift.

Re:Rust has been forked to the Crab Language by toyg on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @11:48AM (#36126241)
That shift is the result of millions of other little shifts made over the last 4 decades, which he definitely had a hand in enabling.