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Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by laurencerowe on Monday May 29, 2023 @05:14AM (#36112169)
You seem to be describing a committed relationship?

For me the significant markers of committed relationships were first moving in together, then perhaps buying a home together (in those places where that was still affordable), and then for those that wanted them and by far the most important having children together.

Many of my friends and family have gotten married along the way too but it never felt like a big deal because by the point they got married they'd already been together for several years. It was a nice opportunity for a celebration! But having children together seems the far greater commitment. Marriages may end but even if you split up you'll still be parents together.

I grew up in a far less religious society than the US so maybe this just reflects a different cultural background. The US has always been more religious than Europe while also having far higher rates of teen births and children living in single parent households. But US rates of religious identification and teen births have both been falling rapidly over the past couple of decades.

Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Monday May 29, 2023 @11:13AM (#36114769)
Marriage, apart from a nice opportunity of celebration, is a legal contract.
Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by n4r9 on Monday May 29, 2023 @11:56AM (#36115123)
In my experience the legal nature of it is not what encourages one to get outside of oneself, as the original reply describes.
Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by Veen on Monday May 29, 2023 @12:15PM (#36115315)
It's also, and perhaps primarily, a vow.
Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by WastingMyTime89 on Monday May 29, 2023 @01:26PM (#36115984)
Extremely American way of looking at it. Here in France most of my friends have been in committed relationships and living together for years, some have children, only one couple is married. Marriage is an holdover from a time far removed which is both utterly useless and slightly paternalistic.
Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by Veen on Monday May 29, 2023 @02:54PM (#36116757)
I’m not American, thank you. Also, there were almost a quarter of a million marriages in France in 2022.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/464239/total-number-marr...

Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by orhmeh09 on Monday May 29, 2023 @03:57PM (#36117430)
I think your view is an extremely Western way of looking at it. Maybe examine attitudes in India for example. Also Indonesia and many others; possibly a supermajority of people in the world, even.
Re:The Never Married, a New Normal by pjmlp on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @03:49AM (#36122189)
In some European countries you can have that contract without marriage as such.