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Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bnlxbnlx on Friday May 26, 2023 @05:28PM (#36089717)
Wow, i wasn't aware that there might be a connection between menopause and matriarchal societies—super fascinating! Do you have any sources you can recommend that offer more information on this?

Also i wasn't aware how much culture and collaboration orcas apparently have, thank you for sharing all that!

Edit: also, curious if you are aware of the work of marija gimbutas and heide göttner-abendroth on neolithic pre-patriarchal Europe (which seems to have been peaceful for thousands of years)?

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bmitc on Friday May 26, 2023 @09:20PM (#36091212)
Two good books are

* Deep Thinkers: Inside the Minds of Whales, Dolphins, and Porpoises by Janet Mann

* The Cultural Lives of Whales and Dolphins by Hal Whitehead and Luke Rendell

Whales in general are very fascinating in their social and emotional intelligences. Orcas just take their raw intelligence to a new level.

Also, I am not aware of that work. So thank you! I have been meaning to read Against the Grain by James C. Scott. He mentions that early agrian societies had less leisure time and were less healthy than their hunter gatherer counterparts.

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by myshpa on Saturday May 27, 2023 @01:34AM (#36092329)
> He mentions that early agrian societies had less leisure time and were less healthy than their hunter gatherer counterparts.

This is also described in high detail in "The Dawn of Everything" by another anarchist David Graeber. Highly recommend.

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bmitc on Saturday May 27, 2023 @01:50AM (#36092394)
Thanks for the reference! I am familiar with David Graeber from Dept, so thanks for bringing this other book of his to my attention.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bnlxbnlx on Saturday May 27, 2023 @04:12AM (#36092952)
Thank you for the references, definitely going to look deeper into this.