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Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by ben_w on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:08AM (#36083026)
I love ideas like that, but I'd expect us to learn North Sentinelese from passive remote drone observations before we can manage a different species.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by blinding-streak on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:23AM (#36083134)
Disagree. Animal training and behavior is a vast field of research humans have studied for hundreds of years. We're not starting from scratch. And we already interact with orcas constantly, based on these reports. It would be straightforward to experiment.

Interacting in any way with the North Sentinel folks is forbidden.

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by 2000UltraDeluxe on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:29AM (#36083174)
I mean, apart from a few kidnapped ones in the 1800's, few Sentinelese have ever interacted with the rest of us.

Human-Orca contact, on the other hand, is relatively common.

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by RajT88 on Friday May 26, 2023 @09:30AM (#36083850)
And the main way the Sentinelese prefer to interact with the rest of the world is with hails of arrows.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by ben_w on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:53AM (#36084991)
Quite possibly for the same reason as the orcas…
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by AlecSchueler on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:50PM (#36087473)
So why would we expect to learn to communicate with the Sentinelese first, rather than the species we're already in contact with?
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bmitc on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:42PM (#36088071)
Contact is not the same as communication and understanding of language, which is what the original commenter was referring to.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by AlecSchueler on Friday May 26, 2023 @06:44PM (#36090352)
Yes, but we already communicate with orcas, and with the Sentinelese we can't communicate with them because we can't contact them. Communication and understanding of language are two different things. I have great communication with my dog, both ways.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by bmitc on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:41PM (#36091032)
> but we already communicate with orcas

Not really. And again, the person was referring to Sentinelese the language and not the people and thus was referring to orcas' languages.

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by moffkalast on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:49PM (#36088157)
Because every time in history a new group of humans was discovered we could eventually communicate, but have so far managed to talk to exactly zero fish despite constant contact?
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by notmypenguin on Saturday May 27, 2023 @03:51AM (#36092859)
This might be stunning news, but Orcas aren’t fish, they are mammals
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by moffkalast on Saturday May 27, 2023 @07:14AM (#36093758)
Haven't talked to any non-domesticated mammals either, and even the domesticated ones are a bit of a stretch.
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by ben_w on Saturday May 27, 2023 @06:02PM (#36098800)
I've talked to a non-domesticated animal.

The wolf didn't even look up, much less reply.

Joking aside, between this and Neuralink, how close are we to cybernetic uplifting?

Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by marcosdumay on Friday May 26, 2023 @09:56AM (#36084187)
I'm pretty sure the orcas can understand a message of "not here" or "not boats like this".
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by moffkalast on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:55PM (#36088231)
Apparently humans do not understand a message of "stop taking our food or the boat gets it".
Re:Killer whales wreck boat in latest attack off Spain by saltwatercowboy on Friday May 26, 2023 @12:59PM (#36086774)
I don’t know. I’m very much waiting for the Cetacean Translation Initiative (CETI) to release their first set of results.