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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by squarefoot on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:42PM (#36077343)
Can you be absolutely certain that self driving can deal safely with every possible road irregularities, obstacles, bad, incomplete, damaged or tampered road signs, and other unpredictable events? Self driving on public roads done right is damn hard; probably harder than sending a manned but completely automated spaceship to Mars and back.
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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by jjoonathan on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:53PM (#36077492)
Yeah, it's a hard problem, but researchers are smart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRdUjrOnKdw

and human drivers do not set an infinitely high bar.

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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @07:04PM (#36077577)
That's not the right question to ask. The right question to ask is, "Can self-driving tech kill fewer than 30,000 people a year, as humans do now?"

If you kill the R&D goose or smother it in overregulation, more people will die.

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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by paulryanrogers on Thursday May 25, 2023 @08:44PM (#36078392)
Or if the R&D phase kills so many people the public loses faith in the whole idea ... then you get to wait a generation for people to forget
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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:34PM (#36078685)
Why don't we see if anything like that happens before just assuming it will? The precautionary principle is a recipe for eternal stagnation.
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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by mensetmanusman on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:03PM (#36078519)
R&D would have to be killing 30,000*%oftheirvehicles per year.
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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by paulryanrogers on Friday May 26, 2023 @11:53AM (#36085804)
We're talking about perception. Regardless, Tesla won't release the data per mile driven and seems to be dodging reporting regulations -- if not daring regulators to respond.

Feels to me like amateurs (backed by a small army) confidently building bridges and daring the community to try and stop them. (Except Tesla's army are fan boys, lobbyists, and lawyers.) So basically speed running a millennium of civil engineering, except ignoring the more expensive safety controls; like LIDAR.

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