[Edit: why would someone downvote this?]

Even that's overstating it -- there will still be an "official" Apple version, written by Apple employees and automatically installed when it's needed; it just won't be on most users' machines.

It's not uncommon for users that rely on X11 support to update to the latest XQuartz release by themselves, anyway. Perhaps this will even bring more attention to the project, which is always good.

It's also one less thing for them to worry about, since they're moving to a faster release cycle.

Now, IMO, most people that need XQuartz need it to run GTK apps, like the GIMP. Is there a technical reason why GTK doesn't support OS X natively? Or is it only because noone ever did it, really? Perhaps now that can also happen?

It would be really nice to have GTK apps using the menu bar and displaying native OS X widgets.

There's been a Quartz backend for GTK+ for quite some time. Working GIMP builds for native OSX have been available since 2011, and for most projects it's just a matter of finicking with the build system until it works.

http://www.gtk.org/download/macos.php

Sorry for the derail, it's just something i've been noticing. I wish more people would like to them.

Ars Technica's Infinite Loop section is very good in my experience, they don't tend to do rumor as much and their coverage is usually good and informed.

appleinsider's quality varies a lot and it has lots of terrible writers who really don't know jack (Prince McLean for instance, really should quit the internet altogether), and the 9to5 network is just garbage all around, with 9to5mac being the Apple-scenting of that garbage.

A lot of it is very US-centric and some of the 'rumours' aren't very news-worthy (the numerous stories on dock connectors for the iPad 3 come to mind) but it's far more like a news site that works mostly on facts (well, as close to facts as rumours can come) than mere speculation and conjecture. Arn, the guy who runs it, is an MD which might explain the difference to an extent.

1. What's an MD? A doctor of medicine, as my dictionary suggests?

2. There's certainly a lot more personality shining through the posts of Jordan Golson. Just an observation.

Keep up the good work!

How many Mac users actually use X? I assume a fraction of the audience of HN does, but, again, the last time I used X on a Mac it was on a PPC G3.

You can't use copy paste because it copies a raster version instead of a vector one.

This makes inkscape totally unusable. I tried to compile a native GTK version but letters and icons will appear as little boxes. It was more useful that way that the X version(at least this way you could guess what the boxes were).

http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#Copying_and_past...

  However, this will also prevent copying text from any
  X11 application to Mac OS X ones. It will not prevent
  copying text from OS X to X11.

  When you just want to make a copy of an object within
  Inkscape, you should use duplicate (Ctrl-D) rather than
  copy/paste (Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V). Duplicate does not interact
  with the X11/OSX clipboards.

All this changes is that the first time you run an application that uses X11 a dialog box pops up directing you to the XQuartz project page.

Seems like they're just trimming the base OS install down to what is used by most users. I'll put this in the meh category.

When you start X11 you get a similar dialog, but it currently sends you to a website where you have to download stuff. That’s not the same.

It’s no big deal, really, but it could be smoother.

Though http://www.tastycocoabytes.com/cpa/index.php is ok for very basic stuff.