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Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Friday February 17, 2012 @04:38PM (#3605085)
It is really, really, really, really, really hard for me to find a good temporary distraction nowadays. The noise is so monotonous, so repetitive, so completely devoid of intellectual stimulation that I go between four websites in a loop looking for something interesting to read.

HN has maybe one article every two hours that pops up to the top that I find worth reading, and maybe half the time worth upvoting. And that's the only good source of noise I have. Everything else is shit.

I don't care about politics. I don't care about the tech scene, or gadgets, or games, or celebrities, or sports, or this quarter's fiscal projections for a multinational corporation. You name a "news" story and I probably would hate to read about it. Even if I want to read it, it has almost no background information or anything more than the re-cutting of a press release with a paragraph describing why the press release was released. Regurgitated stock information with nothing of value.

Here's some choice excerpts from Google News, which I guess is supposed to be some representation of what's happening in journalism today:

  * Microsoft unveils new, more window-like logo for Windows 8
  * Robin Thicke Arrested for Pot Possession
  * The mostly good and sometimes bad Top 10 moments of Tim Wakefield's Red Sox career
  * [John] Glenn worries the US is ceding its space leadership
  * Ohio AG DeWine switches from Romney to Santorum
  * Identity Theft Tops IRS's 2012 "Dirty Dozen" Tax Scams
  * GOP candidates fighting over Michigan
  * Anthony Shadid, New York Times foreign correspondent, dies at 43
  * FDA Still Wary of Diet Pill's Side Effects
I don't want noise, but sometimes I need noise. And when I want it, I want it to be worth while. It seems like nothing on the internet ever is.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by mediaman on Friday February 17, 2012 @04:45PM (#3605113)
Frequency and quality are negatively correlated when it comes to news.

I would recommend Instapaper's curated list of articles, which tend to be long-form and more interesting than most, as well as The Browser ("Writing Worth Reading") for curated quality content. http://www.thebrowser.com

But you're not going to find quality content many times a day, no matter where you look.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by cageface on Friday February 17, 2012 @07:11PM (#3605534)
Also try the New York Review of Books blog: http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Friday February 17, 2012 @08:15PM (#3605652)
I'm sure you're right. There's just not enough people writing to explain random complex subjects to people that don't study that field. And i'm correlating the concept of "news" with interesting information, when news reporting is basically repeating that which happens every single day. Thank you for the link, that may be just what I was looking for.
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Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:41PM (#3605878)
...... you know the commenter i was replying to linked to that exact website, right?
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by billforsternz on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:52PM (#3605895)
Many thanks for thebrowser.com. Something similar; http://www.aldaily.com
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by gbhn on Friday February 17, 2012 @08:55PM (#3605702)
It almost makes you think creating a successful blog would be easy -- after all, there's so little worth reading. :-)

Creating writing that's thoughtful, attractive, linkable, rewarding, and current is, apparently, a hugely challenging activity that even a billion people only manage to pull off a few times a day.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by bilban on Saturday February 18, 2012 @08:09AM (#3606521)
I remember this site envisioned the idea of realising original content:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/

Quite how you measure that though... I always liked the idea.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by Rickasaurus on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:38PM (#3605253)
Thanks for a link to thebrowser.com. This is fantastic.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by firefoxman1 on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:29PM (#3605225)
"I don't care about politics. I don't care about the tech scene, or gadgets, or games, or celebrities, or sports, or this quarter's fiscal projections for a multinational corporation."

Then I think you may be on the wrong news site. I'm not saying that to be a jerk, I'm just saying that HN is a community-curated news site where the stories that the majority of users find interesting gets to the top. If you don't fit into that majority then maybe it would be better to find a new site that is more suited to your tastes.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by rsanchez1 on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:51PM (#3605893)
I think you may be confusing HN with Reddit. Then again, so is everyone else.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by Sukotto on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:54PM (#3605899)
I suspect you're trolling. But just in case you're not, and the problem really is that you cannot find interesting, educational and/or enlightening material... have you tried:

Random Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random

Ask.Metafilter (with accepted answer): http://ask.metafilter.com/home/answered

Hack a Day: http://hackaday.com/

LifeHacker Top posts: http://lifehacker.com/top/ or http://lifehacker.com/tag/top/index.xml

Wood Gears: http://woodgears.ca/

Cool Tools: http://kk.org/cooltools

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Saturday February 18, 2012 @02:26AM (#3606146)
I appreciate the attempt but these are examples of what I find uninteresting. Toys, gadgets, household tips and trivia are not the kind of noise I want when trying to optimize for value.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by klipt on Sunday February 19, 2012 @08:33AM (#3609300)
MIT open courseware.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by absconditus on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:14PM (#3605192)
I am not sure what you are looking for specifically, but here are a few ideas:

http://www.aldaily.com/

http://3quarksdaily.com/

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/

http://edge.org/

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by RobPfeifer on Friday February 17, 2012 @06:45PM (#3605475)
3 of my top 4 as well! I would add new criterion as well
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by planckscnst on Friday February 17, 2012 @08:40PM (#3605683)
Make something. Make something, make something, make something! Make. Something. Now. I can't say this enough; the next time you go in a loop, just stop right then and there and make something. Your life will be 1000 times better.

Make something.

Now. Make!

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Friday February 17, 2012 @08:52PM (#3605698)
I make things when I have a reason to make something. I've done my time in OSS and bug killing and it's boring and a waste when you don't need the thing you're working on.

I did make something recently, but with my free time and not at work, because basically work didn't feel it was important enough to pay me to make it. So instead of making it at work I look for other noise to fill in the gap when i've been coding for 5 hours and need a break.

But making something for the sake of making? I'm sorry but i'll never be one of those people. (Well, anymore. I have a directory full of 1/4 finished projects as proof of how productive it is to just make stuff for no reason)

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by DanBC on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:57PM (#3605315)
You may need special means to get these outside the UK.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/podcasts/)

I recommend:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/maths

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/ahow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/americana

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/analysis

...well, you get the hint. There are very many hours of great quality reporting there.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by andyking on Saturday February 18, 2012 @09:29AM (#3606635)
The BBC's programmes aren't, as far as I'm aware, geoblocked.

I loved Americana... until Radio 4 removed it and replaced it with an interminable panel game featuring four of the usual suspect "comedians" who seem to take up an inordinate amount of the station's airtime.

Now, I go the other way, and listen to a lot of stuff on NPR stations from the US.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by dmhouse on Saturday February 18, 2012 @12:53PM (#3607150)
The TV stuff tends to be. The radio programmes are not. This is because one needs to pay a license fee in the UK to watch television, which funds the BBC. Listening to the radio is free, however.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by rsingel on Friday February 17, 2012 @06:02PM (#3605330)
In your list of "choice excerpts," an obituary for Anthony Shadid, one of the greats in journalism. He won 2 Pulitzer prizes and a bullet in the shoulder for his coverage of the Middle East over the last decade. Go read his obit and some of his old work.

There's lots of great journalism out there, and I mostly don't see anything wrong with that list you have there. Maybe little of interest to you, but all still news.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by Tichy on Friday February 17, 2012 @07:18PM (#3605548)
You could start playing games online. I like to play Carcassonne on Brettspielwelt, but presumably chess or Go would work, too. Give you a 30 minute break.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by ThomPete on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:53PM (#3605296)
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by fferen on Friday February 17, 2012 @07:41PM (#3605591)
I personally play a few rounds of web boggle (http://www.wordsplay.net/). (not affiliated)
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by rms on Friday February 17, 2012 @07:03PM (#3605516)
I like www.longform.org.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by ThaddeusQuay2 on Friday February 17, 2012 @05:35PM (#3605248)
"It is really, really, really, really, really hard for me to find a good temporary distraction nowadays."

You sound like a typical bored teenager, with too much time on their hands, wearing their boredom as a nihilistic badge of honor, expecting everyone to entertain them, while simultaneously acting as if they know everything, thereby supposedly being superior to the entertainers. If you can't find anything good to read, then use your apparently copious time to write something which you would want to read, and then anyone who responds positively to it will probably be someone like you. Find enough of these people, and you'll have created a self-entertaining community. Hackers build solutions.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by peterwwillis on Friday February 17, 2012 @07:58PM (#3605626)
Yes. I am 16. I stay home from school because learning civics and history and math and science are super boring, so in between sessions of wallhacking on legacy counter-strike servers I refresh a startup tech news site looking for intellectually stimulating articles.

You're right. I do know everything. Everything except how best to use my time when I occasionally want to waste it broadening my horizon with unusual and interesting information. I typically walk around the house in underroos bragging about how bored I am. Then I zone out to American Idol.

I'm not sure what kind of parallel universe I'd have to exist in where writing about things I don't know anything about is possible, but once I find that reality, by golly I'll take your suggestion to heart.

Hackers really are the Thomas Edisons of our time. Extremely productive in everything they do and never piddling away on something just out of intellectual curiosity. Hackers only seem to create practical solutions to the big problems facing the world today. I'm so glad every college graduate who's just landed his first job writing JavaScript for a start-up can refer to themselves with such a prestigious title. And with so much credibility!

What I don't understand about your comment is that you seem to believe that nobody ever gets bored at work or needs a break from a grind of meetings, coding, red tape, conference calls, etc. I envy your steadfast dedication. I, however, do actually need a break once in a while and enjoy reading about things that are interesting and new to me, or just enlightening in some fashion. Forgive me for crying about it into a thread about distraction.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by corford on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:19PM (#3605854)
10 out of 10 for the put down but seriously between libraries, a kindle and google you have access (mostly free) to virtually the sum total of human knowledge. There is lots of stuff out there that will distract you and feed your brain, you're just going to have to cycle through more than 4 sites to get it.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by csomar on Saturday February 18, 2012 @03:16AM (#3606229)
Yes. I am 16. I stay home from school because learning civics and history and math and science are super boring, so in between sessions of wallhacking on legacy counter-strike servers I refresh a startup tech news site looking for intellectually stimulating articles.

No, they are pretty interesting. The teachers are boring, may be. History? The civil war? The Isreali-Palestini conflict? The poverty in the world? Water distribution in the world?

Go and look for the interesting parts. There are lot of interesting stuff in the world, apart from the tech scene. I wish I spent more time when I was your age reading about politics.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by JackdawX on Saturday February 18, 2012 @05:36AM (#3606369)
That was a sarcastic rebuttal, the author of that post is not really 16.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by gnosis on Saturday February 18, 2012 @05:44AM (#3606375)
If you want real intellectual stimulation, go to a university. Seriously. There are some super interesting things going on at universities, but you have to take some initiative to find them.

Sit in on some classes, check out the university library, find some clubs that seem interesting and hang out at their meetings, talk to professors and students -- maybe even get involved in some of the projects happening there. You'll get a lot out of this, I guarantee it. I can recommend this to people who've already attended universities too. Many of them could use some intellectual stimulation.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by ryandvm on Friday February 17, 2012 @09:21PM (#3605751)
Heh. Good stuff.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by bobz on Friday February 17, 2012 @06:31PM (#3605436)
I tend to agree. If you're having trouble finding good content in the age of endless content, well, that's an opportunity.

Hell, I could read Wikipedia for 8 hours a day and not get bored.

Interesting aside, I read "... a typical bored engineer..." the first time, which also worked.

Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by prophetjohn on Friday February 17, 2012 @10:02PM (#3605830)
I read the same thing the first time, which indicates to me that it originally said that, but OP didn't find it condescending enough.
Re:Did You Hear We Got Osama? by itmag on Tuesday February 21, 2012 @08:49AM (#3616399)
Yeah, he should just start a magazine about the stuff he is interested in. That's when I did when I was a bored 22 year old :-)

Boom, boredom problem solved, plus nice contact network from all the cool folks I contacted and got to write something.