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Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by bkm on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @04:32AM (#36041535)
The GPT term clearly has prior art. As this doesnt use an OpenAI service, OpenAI has no leverage (e.g. terminating service).
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by amelius on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:12AM (#36041778)
Being right is one thing. Having enough money to pay a lawyer for how long it takes is another thing.
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by linsomniac on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @09:12AM (#36043768)
I like to remind my kids that being right doesn't mean you won't go bankrupt in court proving it.
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by Breza on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @02:43PM (#36128818)
I wonder if someone like Google will try to restrain OpenAI's claims.
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by orlp on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:32AM (#36041908)
> OpenAI has no leverage (e.g. terminating service).

Uhh... the United States Justice system? Prior art is morally nice but ultimately meaningless unless a judge agrees with you, which can cost a lot of money before you get there, if you get there.

Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by verdverm on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @06:24AM (#36042214)
OpenAI has to get a trademark first, they do not own the rights to GPT right now
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by sharemywin on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @08:31AM (#36043346)
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by ToValueFunfetti on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @08:51AM (#36043519)
They applied in December but it has not gone through yet and may not resolve in either direction until September.
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by sharemywin on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @10:14AM (#36044621)
It says Active. What does that mean?
Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by ToValueFunfetti on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @11:24AM (#36045658)
Your link doesn't go through for me, but this page[1] says

>LIVE/APPLICATION/Under Examination

>The trademark application has been accepted by the Office (has met the minimum filing requirements) and that this application has been assigned to an examiner.

Which, apart from some grammatical confusion, is pretty clear. It looks like they have GPT-3, but GPT, ChatGPT, and GPT-4 are all still pending.

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=97733259&caseType=SERIAL_...

Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by matemp on Friday May 26, 2023 @05:27PM (#36089713)
"ChatGPT" is a distinctive brand name for OpenAI's particular chatbot system that is based on GPT technology.

However, "GPT" itself is a type of technology (albeit one that was invented by OpenAI). It involves much more than just ChatGPT...even if we just look at OpenAI's own other offerings (e.g. GPT-1, GPT-2, Dall-E, etc.).

The "GP" (generative pretraining) has been a concept in machine learning for many years. The "T" (transformer architecture) was invented in 2017. Thus, the issue for the USPTO will be whether or not combining the "GP" with the "T" is too descriptive or even inherently generic to be "distinctive" to OpenAI.

Sometimes, general terms can become trademarks, by becoming "distinctive" to one company. Microsoft was able to do it with "Windows" (in the field of software, of course). And "booking.com" was able to trademark the word "booking" (for reservation services) in certain contexts. The issue will be whether OpenAI can successfully make the case that they've achieved something similar for the term "GPT" itself. I really remain doubtful of that, given the term's frequent usage as being a type of LLM and a general framework for generative AI.

All that said, I suppose we'll all know for sure soon enough...when the USPTO decides.

Re:Show HN: DB-GPT, an LLM tool for database by brianjking on Sunday May 28, 2023 @09:59PM (#36109753)
OpenAI is filing c&d to all products using GPT in their name and filed a trademark for it.