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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by lokhura on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:12PM (#36036795)
Who is "you folks"? I can think for myself, thanks. I'm providing some context for your naive or perhaps intentional misunderstanding of what is actually happening.

And who do you think votes for these decisions? The parents. So presumably many parents think that some books in school liraries are not age appropiate.

I haven't even expressed my opinion on this topic yet you are assuming my stance because you lack nuance. That's why I suggest you read the actual books that are being challenged and come back with a more informed perspective.

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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by ok_dad on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:16PM (#36036831)
> read the actual books that are being challenged

Give me a list then.

> who do you think votes for these decisions? The parents

You think voting for something like this is reasonable? Why can those parents not police what their children do, so those of us who want our kids to be raised with knowledge of other people's struggles can let them read those books? I don't go looking to ban the bible, even if it has rape, murder, incest, and etc. in it.

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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by lokhura on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:31PM (#36036976)
Here are the top most challenged books of 2022 according to the ALA:

    - "Gender Queer" by Maia Kobabe
    - "All Boys Aren't Blue" by George M. Johnson
    - "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Morrison
    - "Flamer" by Mike Curato
    - "Looking for Alaska" by John Green
    - "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" by Stephen Chbosky
    - "Lawn Boy" by Jonathan Evison
    - "The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian" by Sherman Alexie
    - "Out of Darkness" by Ashley Hope Pérez
    - "A Court of Mist and Fury" by Sarah J. Maas
    - "Crank" by Ellen Hopkins
    - "Me and Earl and the Dying Girl" by Jesse Andrews
    - "This Book Is Gay" by Juno Dawson
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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by ok_dad on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:35PM (#36037014)
OK, now assuming I have read them, and I probably won't but assume I do: why should they be banned? Tell me exactly why parents shouldn't be on the hook to track what their kids read and talk with them about what they believe? Why is information like this dangerous? What danger does it pose to society that gay people and transgender people exist? What danger does information about sex pose to a child?

Then, once you answered that, tell me why I shouldn't ban Catholic churches from my community because of the perceived risk of pedophilia loving sexual pervert priests? (note: I don't believe we should ban churches, but at least I can show evidence of a threat)

My point here is that information is not dangerous and should not be banned or kept behind a locked door. That's how we end up with powerful interests controlling us.

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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:51PM (#36037170)
> who do you think votes for these decisions? The parents.

There are a lot of non-parents with strong opinions about this.

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