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Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by yalogin on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:19PM (#36034114)
Didn't they also have some issues with payments and working conditions for their factory employees?
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by cowsup on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:12PM (#36034690)
Correct. Story seems to be, Wistron was screwing over employees to save costs, and used those low-costs to secure a deal with Apple. Then they got caught by the government, and now have to play by the rules. Because of this, they asked Apple for more money, and Apple said no. So now the deal is done.

The deal really shouldn’t have happened in the first place, had Wistron played fair from day one.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by elcritch on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:26PM (#36034903)
Pretty sure Apple is partly guilty as well. I really doubt they didn’t know exactly how Wistron was bidding so low.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by karamanolev on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:33PM (#36034998)
They might have suspected, but I doubt they formally knew. I would guess it was a type of "don't tell me, I don't want to know, plausible deniability and all".
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by actionfromafar on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:16PM (#36035472)
Only suckers formally know anything.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by paulryanrogers on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:25PM (#36035566)
There be dragons.

Better a high trust society with some checks and balances than one ruled by "don't write down anything" sociopaths.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by genr8 on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:52PM (#36035869)
tell that to the lawyers who make a living defending corporations and putting up legal firewalls of plausible deniability
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by willcipriano on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:35PM (#36036365)
If only incompetence was a crime.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by MichaelZuo on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:49PM (#36035841)
Which one do you think you currently live in?
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by paulryanrogers on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:11PM (#36037338)
Regardless when it's in my power I'd rather encourage a high trust society.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by actionfromafar on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:04PM (#36037282)
To be clear, I don't like how it is. But if corporations have a personality, they either verge on or go full hog on sociopathic. Any corporate lawyer will tell management to not write down potentially incriminating.

The better among corporations actually try to do the right thing, most of the time. But of course, if there's some kind of incident, there's still a lockdown mentality.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by jbverschoor on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:12PM (#36036110)
They probably didn’t tell bc they wouldn’t get the deal.

Simple story. Just some more Apple bashing like always.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by jrockway on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:23PM (#36036228)
I would assume that Apple looked into it a little bit. US companies can get in trouble if their contractors abroad use slave labor, buy parts from the wrong country, or divert part of the contract to use as bribes. So I doubt this is a case where everyone at Apple laughed about how it was too good to be true, CC'd the lawyers, and the lawyers wrote back "yeah hahah".

At the end of the day, you can't always find everything even if you try really hard.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by Dah00n on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:47PM (#36036504)
You can make it yourself if it is important enough.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by jbverschoor on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:43PM (#36038105)
Why would it be too good to be true? They might have simply won the deal but a small margin against a competitor.

They also might have hidden this info, or even fraudes their way through.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by capableweb on Monday May 22, 2023 @04:55PM (#36036608)
> I would guess it was a type of "don't tell me, I don't want to know, plausible deniability and all".

Imagine something like due diligence laws for making business contracts, so you can't really blame plausible deniability anymore.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by mschuster91 on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:27PM (#36036946)
That's the core idea behind the EU's supply chain laws. No matter what, anyone on the upper levels can get busted - it's a massive incentive for everyone to make sure their supply chain is not skirting around or openly sharting on laws. And it's also an incentive to not look the other way when you know that a vendor's bid is very very low.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by phone8675309 on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:20PM (#36035518)
This sounds like a case of Apple not doing due diligence on their subcontractors.
Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by gwbas1c on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:45PM (#36035159)
From TFA:

> Back in 2020, there was a major riot at its Bangalore plant over underpaid wages, with millions of dollars’ worth of damage done. Both the Indian government and Apple investigated, and both found that Wistron was indeed guilty of serious labor law violations, including underpayment of its workers.

Re:iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it ma... by jasmer on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:57PM (#36037230)
Yes, that's how Apple outsources those unsavory problems.