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Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @08:58PM (#35996466)
> One product often left out, which may have started with Jobs, but delivery should be attributed to Cook is the new Apple HQ. The initial impact has crumbled due to Covid WFH.

> However, this campus may turn out to be a force multiplier going forward. If so, it is a victory, but not in the minds of consumers.

Curious, have you ever actually talked to anyone that worked there? While I have admittedly only talked to a couple folks, they either hated it or were at best indifferent. There reasons ranged from "my commute is now twice as long" to "it's still just a giant suburban office park".

Again, in no way arguing this is some sort of representative sample, so I am curious what Apple employees who work there actually think about it.

Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by JKCalhoun on Thursday May 18, 2023 @09:19PM (#35996617)
I only worked there briefly (I never officially had an office there — Covid times and all that). I don't see it as any different than any of the other Apple campus buildings I worked in (like Infinite Loop) with regard to productivity.

(I've always compared it to some beautiful, modern art gallery — but without any art.)

But to the above degree, I have to say I enjoyed all large Apple work environments (even some of the more far flung ones I worked at like Results Way).

It's because I have enjoyed being able to walk down a hall, up a floor, and chat with The Guy That Works on IOKit Display-support. I am a "social engineer" (not one to socially engineer though if you know what I mean). I truly disliked working from home for extended periods.

Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by sverhagen on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:21AM (#35998082)
They must have some art!?
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by aabhay on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:24AM (#35998463)
You’re expected to build it
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by peyton on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:39AM (#35998534)
Yeah Apple’s DRI system means it’s pretty easy to just talk to the guy. No PM nonsense. It’s nice.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by Sai_ on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:18AM (#35998772)
DRI - directly responsible individual, for those who didn’t know.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by raverbashing on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:18AM (#35998774)
No PM nonsense but there's some NDA nonsense even between internal teams no?
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by int_19h on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:17AM (#36027717)
I don't think devs talking directly across teams is unique to Apple, though. Or do you mean that finding "the guy" is much easier because there's an official registry, and you don't have to guess from commit logs etc?
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by musicale on Thursday May 18, 2023 @09:13PM (#35996563)
I don't know whether they've backed off from the open plan office layout for Apple Park[1], but that sounded terrible to me.

Personally I'd almost certainly prefer a real office (even a tiny closet-like one) with a door, maybe in Infinite Loop.

[1] https://www.macworld.com/article/670869/complete-guide-to-ap...

Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by JKCalhoun on Thursday May 18, 2023 @09:23PM (#35996644)
Yeah, no, they were still large glass aquarium-like enclosures for a couple dozen engineers the last time I was there.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by oblio on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:32AM (#35998145)
That's so ridiculous for a custom designed space. Why not have team offices?!? Something for 6 to 8 people?
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by avalys on Thursday May 18, 2023 @09:12PM (#35996548)
Apple Campus 2 is about a superblock away from Apple Campus 1, so unless we’re talking about someone whose 5-minute commute doubled to 10 minutes, no one’s commute doubled in any sense where the comparison is meaningful.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @11:07PM (#35997259)
I don't know all the details but I'm pretty sure they consolidated a bunch of offices to Apple HQ when it first opened - for this person it was definitely not a 5 to 10 minute change.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by nr2x on Friday May 19, 2023 @12:20AM (#35997689)
More traffic congestion right by there tho.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by Firmwarrior on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:25AM (#35998817)
I could believe 10-20 minutes from home to the Spaceship, and another 10-20 minutes from the parking lot to your desk in the giant aquarium
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by saagarjha on Friday May 19, 2023 @04:03AM (#35999072)
Make it 25 if you come in late, are looking for a charger and all the bikes are at the building rather than the lots.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by blitzar on Friday May 19, 2023 @05:16AM (#35999538)
Being rich is incredibly hard.
Re:Apple's Reality Pro headset compromised by cafed00d on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:13AM (#35998740)
I work at Apple Park and it’s awesome. I love it! Been here 4ish years.

On my current team we share a hall-wide office that seats 4. On my old team I shared a half-hall wide room with another person.

Most people have this 2 person arrangement. Some teams sit in groups of 6-8 together. All of this is Siri.

Teams in other orgs are wildly different. I had a friend in iCloud that was in one of those open office style arrangements. She hated it. She left to Netflix eventually.