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Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by culi on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:38AM (#35961021)
This map (from 2015) shows sites with the most TCE groundwater contamination. Bay Area is actually quite clean. LA is completely fucked though

https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/2018-tce/

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by xeromal on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:11AM (#35962145)
Thanks for this. Kind of happy my state of GA has none!
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by johnmaguire on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:48AM (#35962639)
It's not clear to me where this data comes from - do spots that are unmarked have none, or are they unmeasured?
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by bobthepanda on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @12:51PM (#35964510)
The data says it comes from public water systems. The EPA requires testing and reporting of water supplies for lots of things.

That being said, if you run your own private well, you’re not subject to this.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by hindsightbias on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @11:07AM (#35962876)
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by uoaei on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:56AM (#35962743)
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/toxic-chemical-fou...

> The Oakland Unified School district announced the temporary closure of the McClymonds to test for the chemical tricloroethylene (TCE), which was found in groundwater under the campus.

> "This is West Oakland and so there is a history of environmental injustice, of racial injustice that happens in this community. So these are places where there are leaks, there are dumps, there are things like that that are not healthy for our community," said Jumoke Hinton Hodge, Oakland Board of Education District 3 Director.

> McClymonds has recently seen a handful of students and former students develop cancer, including the high-profile cases Darryl Aikens, a McClymonds football player who died of leukemia a month after graduating in 2017, as well as 2018 graduate Ramone Sanders, who died of cancer last fall. Sanders was playing football at Laney College when he broke his leg and it was discovered he had bone cancer that spread to his lungs.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by dekhn on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @07:32PM (#35969215)
Cancer has a fairly high incident rate in the general public, so anecdotes about people getting cancer due to industrial solvents is often suspect. Most observations can be explained by a combination of base rates, and social determinants of health.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by culi on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @10:00PM (#35983407)
The link between TCE and kidney cancer has already been very well established though. The Parkison's is just a cherry on top. If we know this place is contaminated, then we know there's increased risk of cancer. Full stop
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by uoaei on Thursday May 18, 2023 @08:44PM (#35996382)
Two extremely athletic high-school-age people die within two years of each other of mysterious cancers, with an obvious presence of cancer-causing chemicals, and you want to pretend that cancer statistics that are heavily weighted toward the older and more obese somehow have any relevance here?

Honestly I am quite disgusted at this take. How many readers want to bet this take is informed by more than a little implicit racial bias, these being Black men at a primarily Black high school in a primarily Black neighborhood?

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by dekhn on Saturday May 20, 2023 @03:15PM (#36014717)
Well, I was trained as a scientist and medical researcher and did my phd thesis on cancer drugs. One thing you learn is that many people see patterns in cancer that are better explained by random numbers.

See this doc, including the section "Some important points to consider".

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/understanding-...

You can be disgusted all you want but I think you're making an error.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by jpmattia on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @11:00AM (#35962784)
> This map (from 2015) shows sites with the most TCE groundwater contamination.

But note there was more than TCE at those superfund sites.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by athoun on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @01:26PM (#35965013)
This is incorrect, or misleading at best. The map that you linked contains data about TCE levels in public water systems. It does not imply anything about the contamination of the ground water supply which exists below many homes in workplaces in throughout the Bay Area.

The vast majority of the Bay Area population gets its water either from the Hetch Hetchy (SF, South Bay, Peninsula) or the Mokelumne River watershed (East Bay). Ground water wells are rather uncommon for most areas here.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by culi on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @07:01PM (#35982312)
Fascinating. Thanks so much for taking the time to explain