Anyway - even if it were from last week, I'd fail to see the logic in your point.
What's 'doublethink' is claiming that Wikipedia "treat freedom of expression as a principle" while black-listing outlets that have never once had to retract a story as false.
And of course like any tankie brainrot they deny the Uyghur Genocide and other atrocities committed by these regimes.
Freedom of speech as a principle does not mean lying to the public with claiming propaganda is "anti-war" otherwise by your logic we should frame nazi ideas as just "community building".
Or that the US hasn't been condemned by the UN - many times?
Hmm.
Also, if you are letting in some of one propaganda does it make you obligated to also let in some even worse propaganda?
The idea that you must do what someone wants you to do because if you don't you are somehow unjust or inconsistent is a known psychological manipulation technique.
It is Russian imperialism that is causing the problem here. Would you agree with that?
I'll add another one; the way anything related to the origins of Covid-19 was handled was disgraceful. Yes, the way Facebook et al handled it was just as disgraceful, but the idea of Wikipedia is that they're above that.
So checked their articles and found this recent one about the US-Ukraine leak: https://thegrayzone.com/2023/04/07/leaked-documents-us-nato-...
"Neither the New York Times nor the “military analysts” it cited explain how the documents were altered, or why they have the appearance of tampering."
Thankfully they provide the leaked document (The black box "TOTAL ASSESSED LOSSES"): https://i0.wp.com/thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04...
And the numbers are VERY poorly photoshopped: The doctored text does not align with the rest. Character position, height and spacing suddenly change (look at the "71.5k" alone). The russian aircraft losses have a numbers photoshopped out (from "7x fighter/bomber; 8x rotary wing" to "7 fighter/bomber; 8 rotary wing".
So would agree with Wikipedia, that The GRAYZONE is NOT reliable.
> ... because the leaked documents have arrived in the form of photographs of printed documents, rather than original files, the possibility of forgery or alteration must be considered.
And you may have misread that other quote you posted: It's saying the documents "have the appearance of tampering."
They also questioned the authenticity multiple times, making it very clear they authenticity had not been confirmed:
> Though they resemble those described by the Times, we can not confirm their authenticity.
And again, further on:
> If the documents were partially faked, were they disseminated to help Russia advance its public relations goals, perhaps by minimizing their casualty numbers or inflating those of their foe? They certainly would not be fooling anyone at the Department of Defense, since they obviously have the original files on hand.
... Looks to me like they reported the news accurately, making no claims about authenticity whatsoever.
The only significant difference I can see between that article and CNN's reporting of the same day [0] is that Grayzone actually showed the documents.
0 - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/07/politics/ukraine-document...
> There is also the possibility that they are one hundred percent authentic. If so, Ukraine and its Western patrons may have more serious problems than a few leaked documents.
Again, the figures are badly photoshopped, they are one hundred percent NOT authentic.
There is also the following paragraph that tries to lend the photoshopped figures credibility:
> Perhaps the most notable piece of information contained in the leaked documents relates to military death tolls, with Ukrainian and Russian losses estimated at about a 4:1 ratio. According to one document, 71,500 Ukrainian troops have been killed in action. That figure is close to the 100,000 KIA’s cited by EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in a November 2022 speech, before her comments were retracted. It also tracks closely with statements by one of Ukrainian President Vlodymyr Zelensky’s top advisers, Mykhailo Podolyak, who told the BBC in June of last year that Ukraine was losing between 100 and 200 soldiers per day (200 deaths per day over the course of 370 days between the launch of Russia’s military operation and the date of the documents would total 74,000.)
You’re complaining they’re not so left wing they’re pro Russia.
On the face of it they seem to be doing the right thing cos both extremes are pissed off with them.
Where did I do that?
> they seem to be doing the right thing cos both extremes are pissed off with them.
That's not the test of what's right, actually.
Wikipedia have red and even black-listed virtually every anti-war / anti-imperialist news source. At the same time, they continue to greenlight obvious propaganda and false news purveyors.
Since reading through the facts listed here [0], the claim that Wikipedia "treat freedom of expression as a principle" rings very hollow.
0 - https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/10/wikipedia-formally-censor...