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Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by parker_mountain on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:27PM (#35932911)
It's not intentional in the sense that they're trying to do that to her, but their algorithm likely determined that showing a video in that cohort leads to increased use of their app.
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by andrewjl on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:35PM (#35932990)
> algorithm likely determined that showing a video in that cohort leads to increased use of their app

Development, selection, tuning, and ultimately deployment of that algorithm were all intentional actions.

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by neilv on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:33PM (#35932965)
> It's not intentional in the sense that they're trying to do that to her,

Do you know this for certain?

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by parker_mountain on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:34PM (#35932973)
I'm pretty sure "tiktok is specifically trying to make people sad" and "tiktok does not really care if they hurt people as long as they increase engagement" are two separate concepts.
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by neilv on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:37PM (#35933003)
Yes, and reportedly neither is a completely resolved question.
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by ThrowawayTestr on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:44PM (#35933531)
Is the former out of the question?
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by erehweb on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:38PM (#35933015)
What would TikTok's motivation be to make her sad?
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:51PM (#35933139)
The USA's FBI currently claims:

The counterintelligence and economic espionage efforts emanating from the government of China and the Chinese Communist Party are a grave threat to the economic well-being and democratic values of the United States.

Confronting this threat is the FBI’s top counterintelligence priority.

To be clear, the adversary is not the Chinese people or people of Chinese descent or heritage. The threat comes from the programs and policies pursued by an authoritarian government.

The Chinese government is employing tactics that seek to influence lawmakers and public opinion to achieve policies that are more favorable to China.

At the same time, the Chinese government is seeking to become the world’s greatest superpower through predatory lending and business practices, systematic theft of intellectual property, and brazen cyber intrusions.

China’s efforts target businesses, academic institutions, researchers, lawmakers, and the general public and will require a whole-of-society response. The government and the private sector must commit to working together to better understand and counter the threat.

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-chin...

ByteDance's motives should, by now, be clear.

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by gowld on Saturday May 13, 2023 @08:31PM (#35934212)
What China-friendly policies are promoted by showing videos about dying children ?

Are Sandy Hook Promise and St Jude's Hospital (manor YouTube advertisers) also CCP propaganda?

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:29PM (#35932924)
No no no. You're confused.

There is no algorithm acting independently. The responsibile agent(s) is(are) a person(people).

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by placatedmayhem on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:37PM (#35933009)
Exactly. These outcomes are the results of the algorithms and their tuning, whether intentional or not. Humans are responsible for it and can tune it differently, to a different result. However, these new tunings may reduce engagement or other profit drivers, which a for-profit company will obviously not want to do.
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by parker_mountain on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:33PM (#35932967)
No no no. You're confused.

I didn't absolve the creator of guilt, I just said that it's unlikely they're intentionally trying to make her sad. They're just trying to increase engagement - at any cost.

Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by xapata on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:37PM (#35933455)
Why? What motivates ByteDance?
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by spondylosaurus on Saturday May 13, 2023 @07:06PM (#35933678)
Profit, presumably? Same as any other company. Engagement = profit has been the formula for some time now.
Re:TikTok Feeds Teens a Diet of Darkness by xapata on Monday May 15, 2023 @03:11PM (#35953153)
There's some speculation that ByteDance is motivated by political goals as well as, or more than, profit.